Quiet Quitting and Startups: a Paradox - Millennials Decoded

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In the dynamic world of startups, success often hinges on passionate dedication. But what happens when team members silently disengage, effectively "quiet quitting"? And what exactly is Quiet Quitting anyway?
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[CesarAnton]

"Quiet quitting" is a rephrasing of not allowing to be exploited. It's wrong to expect someone to work extra hours without compensation.

[DanielleWhite]

I'm Gen X and do IT work (server side stuff) and saw the "hard work gets rewards" breakdown. When I started out Boomers and Silent Generation coworkers were getting raises and promotions for putting in longer hours but for me that I was even the top performer in the department was never enough for a raise or promotion. I began strictly working to spec because it was clear that the extra effort would not get me anywhere. I even had one job where my management tried to put me on a performance improvement plan solely because I wasn't working unpaid overtime while admitting I was getting all of my work done without doing so. When I left the position became a revolving door for at least two years because they did the same up everyone they hired, a fact I only know because the company's recruiters contacted me more than once because they thought I'd "be a great fit" for my old position.

[scottstempmail]

I seem to remember a phrase; "You aren't entitled to another man's labors." This holds true for companies too.

[eldritchbeauty]

Quiet quitting is a non-issue. This is business. No one is entitled to anything for free, least of all companies that are already taking the lion's share of the value their employees produce. Unless a startup's employees have some share in the company, I don't see any reason why they should invest more of their time and labor uncompensated for a venture that doesn't belong to them. That's just nonsensical.

[Daffmeister]

Those who expect more than what they're paying for should take that mentality to McDonald's. "I know I paid you for a 5-dollar burger, but I'm expecting a 7-dollar burger for my 5 dollars." See how that goes, good luck with that. Why should it be any different anywhere else?

[christofpetri]

I strongly disagree with the statement that hard work and more hours gets you promoted. In my experience, the one does much more work than his colleagues, will not get a promotion. The management will see, that you do a lot and they will not give away a good worker. What if you get into a leading position and they have to hire two or three people to replace you? Makes no sense.

[daeclanmyrick]

"Quiet Quitting" just seems like a way to alienate and mislabel people who put in the hours they're paid for. What this really looks like is a way for corporate oppressors to bully employees into working hours that they're not compensated for. The verbiage here is quite sinister.

It's shocking that Americans view this as "Quiet Quitting" when other countries just view it as regular work.

[AI_news_ru]

I don't understand the whole issue to be honest. These days company can fire you in 30 minutes with minimal cost anytime they want due to "whatever" reason. So by default you should not invest more time than you want. If one understand the benefits for himself (money, promotion, knowledge, purpose) - one should work hard. If there is no prize - do bare minimum, search for another job while getting payed. From management perspective - you job is to sell benefits (yeap, see the list above). If it doesnt work - it is either the wrong person - and it is your fault Or you are bad at selling benefits - get better, it is manager fault again. It is the same as you blame customer for not buying your product. I think the problem now is that everyone thinks they are good manager. Fucking not, you aren't

[_f_]

I quiet quit 2 yrs ago when they stopped giving me a raise even though my stats were above required amounts. I now hit each stat exactly to what I’m required and not one single action more.

[Simon-zan]

I find it hilarious that it was coined 'quiet quitting'. Like all that's happening is that people are working according to their legally binding contract — it's the opposite of quitting! It is in fact simply fulfilling your contractual obligations. If they don't like it maybe they should start factoring all the free work people are doing into their costs. I'm not saying that no one should ever work overtime, or that there aren't industries or job titles that putting in the extra is kind of expected — but that shouldn't be at a societal level. This seems to be a particular problem in the US, but there are all these hidden subsidies that the everyday person is expected to pay to corporations, such as being expected to tip or work for free out of contractual hours.

[gustavopaniza]

Companies when you do exactly what they ask you to do within the hours you both agreed beforehand: 👁️ 👄 👁️

[Siwei-nl]

This video is probably only about North America? Jurisdictions (countries) with stronger labor laws, it's very difficult for companies including start-ups to fire people without significant neglecting their contractual work responsibilities.

[idxcredit]

ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS RULE "They pretend to pay you, you pretend to work!"

[guerra_dos_bichos]

If a company is at risk of dying from "quiet quitting " then this company is just incompetent

If you can measure your teams productivity and people are productive, this should be all that matters

[radmod]

I have slaved away at a startup and have reaped the extra rewards. But I also burnt out pretty fast and was not able to do anything more than standard fare after a while. I guess my goals are not aligned with climbing the corporate ladder, but much more holistic in nature.

[marknefedov]

We quietly quite because we are tired of LOUDLY asking for promotion/raises, and if we are not getting them, we are not giving a single free second.
There is a reason why in most European and Asian countries overtime is double the hourly rate.

[donovian]

The current generation in managerial positions grew up in a time when you put in 20 years at a company, and your loyal sacrifices were rewarded with a pension and benefits at retirement. My generation is entering the workforce after growing up through a major terror attack (9/11 is one of my first childhood memories from living in Ithica NY), two separate economic crisis, a housing market failure, and a worldwide pandemic. Through this, corporations have made record profits time and time again. Yet, they continually deprive workers of benefits and give only marginal increases in pay that usually do not even match inflation. My generation has seen that working 20 years for a company with absolute loyalty may, at best, grant you the ability to work from home two days out of the work week during a respiratory virus outbreak. Our definition of professionalism is establishing clear-cut boundaries and working to our value. The previous generation's professionalism existed as pointless sacrifice.

[Jupiterxice]

Quiet Quitting is call doing the job at a set require time as contracted. If you want more out me pay more. Boundaries need to be set and exploiting free labor doesn't work anymore. Lesson learned don't go above and beyond.

[glez]

There is also a big problem with corporate culture, I used to always look for better ways of doing things and always trying to improve processes and the product, I am a Mexican software developer and working for US teams pays much better but I am an outsource then I am caped at what I can do and I don't get the chance to make anything I want to, I am in this weird position/mindset of just doing what I have to instead of trying to improve, I can't have a leadership position (because being outsourced) and I have noticed that I am becoming apathetic and a worst engineer, I am becoming lazier and even slower, its very sad but I have to choose between having a decently paid job or having a challenge.