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[BtterEvryDay]

Personally i like that AMD didn't go all ""Full Powaaaar" again, as that it's stupid. I like my CPU efficient. Let Intel take all the Heat !!!

[frommatorav]

Way to brush off the 13900k and 14900k issues off with "just wait for bios fixes before buying".
Sorry, but if you watched Wendell's video, it's clearly more than can be fixed by microcode in lots of cases. Intel will need to do a new build out to fix it.
The only thing I can agree with Coreteks with is the prices he used for the 9000 series was too high. Hopefully they aren't accurate.

[michaelnager]

What Intel dominance???

2019 just called and wants its headlines back. 🤣

[Pandemonium]

Short answer is no, wait for the x3d version and intels next release so you can get the zen5 at a discounted price.

[SweetyHeaven]

I'm on 5900X and still haven't run into something that would make me go "man I need an upgrade".

[faximori]

AMD is delivering best desktop and server chips with a reasonable price.
They cannot grab 30% market in one year because it does not work this way. Intel is everywhere: more sales, more business developers, more engineers. AMD is growing year by year with its own pace.

[noobgamer]

16% AMD IPC = 3% Intel IPC = It fine, it intel. i seriously don't know what narrative to follow anymore. i have to agree that lower core count need to move up as you were saying R5 for 9700x. but still its a pretty damn impressive N5 to N4X(according to you) with that much improvement in uarch but almost same die size. adding new things doesn't come at a lower transistor cost/die size. they even able to make it clocked at 5.7Ghz. Intel on TSMC N3 node which is far superior are rumored to maxed out at 5.7Ghz at best and rumor been leaning toward 5.5Ghz

[siphi]

Well, this will be more worth it than the 13th and 14th gen duds Intel is feeding people. The crashes are insane, next year it is going to be a nightmare.

[seylaw]

Celzo, to be honest, AMD was first with the APU and HSA strategy back in the 2011/2012 era and promised better CPU+GPU cooperation coming out of this. We all know how that went, they couldn't gain any traction in the ecosystem. Nevertheless, the vision and the hardware to support it was there already and way ahead of Intel's oneAPI initiative. But I agree with your point in general, that AMD needs more innovation. They seem to take incremental steps lately with bad pricing at launch. Just one example: They could have offered more cores on mainstream SKUs with Zen 4C cores already but didn't feel pressured to do so. Another example, customers like me that had decent DDR4 RAM around weren't given any options on AM5 to keep that RAM. I think Intel's strategy with supporting both DDR4 and DDR5 was more consumer friendly as they gave us that choice and bought a 14700KF for this reason as it made much more sense price/performance-wise as I also need the multi-core performance.

[rightwingsafetysquad]

AMD's market share is currently limited by TSMC's capacity to make more chips. With Intel making their next generation of mobile chips at TSMC they must either believe that they're going to beat AMD or they're planning to eat into that manufacturing capacity.

[evilgeek]

In addition to a lot of other comments, I find this narrative that AMD are holding out on x3d or that the architecture itself is iterative bordering on maddening. I don't know nor have I heard anything to indicate one way or the other that the x3d parts are ready now, and logically I would think that getting Zen5 market ready would be the first priority, followed by then working to integrate the 3d v-cache as far as the connections and cache management inside the chip is concerned, in addition to all the additional testing, validation, and evaluating and setting the parameters for them, like whether they will be unlocked for OC and what are the voltage ranges, because it's not the same as the non x3d chips, so why would they be ready at launch? They could delay the launch until they are ready, but that's an entirely different question of whether it would be better to launch the x series now and x3d later, or delay the launch to have the full line-up ready, but my understanding of how things work would eliminate launching the full line up now as an option.
Second, I really really hate this narrative that each new Zen architecture is just an iteration on the prior one. In the video, he even says done of the actual internal changes to the cores, and we've seen, and in other interviews they do state that the odd numbered Zen architectures are fairly ground-up redesigns of the core. The packaging has remained the same sure, as has a lot of the stuff outside the cores, but to dismiss the amount of change and work to make that change happen and still have a high clocking, high ipc, power efficient core with entirely new front-end and execution done consistently and on time is absolutely an almost miraculous achievement. Just because AMD has been a ruthless execution machine which makes their achievements and the uplift seem downright boring, and maybe a little disappointing that it doesn't offer the greatest uplift yet in done leaked benchmarks is I think a cynical and jaded response to an achievement that Intel cannot replicate, as 13th and 14th Gen really are just iterations on alder lake, and they are fundamentally broken on the ring bus it sounds like, so no bios fix can help that problem.
Maybe it's because I've actually toyed with hardware design at the gate level and understand how insane modern CPUs are that I appreciate how amazing it is that AMD hasn't had a single disappointing architecture since the original Zen. Additionally, these chips aren't even on the market yet and do actually feature some really fundamental changes in how they handle throughput, so until be compilers and other low level code optimizations are developed and make their way into software, we won't really see the full benefits of Zen 5 for some time. I don't mean that we should base our evaluation of the chips on potential software updates, but I also don't think that we should consider a few benchmarks where it does better than anything else comparable (x to x not x3d, or r7 to i7) but somehow still is called disappointing as the extent of its performance.
All of this to still agree that waiting for Arrow lake and the x3d chips in a few months is the right choice if you have the option.

[NBWDOUGHBOY]

2:40 Told those fools that Zen 4 didn't have full width AVX-512. Along with the single thread uplift this is my most welcomed addition. Hopefully RPCS3 is way better on Zen 5.

[Maxxilopez]

I find this video really negative. AM4 platform still running strong, AM5 expected to be 7 + years. I don't understand why people would even buy intel anymore. Let alone the efficieny of these . I think you should watch some video from adoredTV back in the day about intel and NVIDIA. Then you know what kind of greedy tactics they used to keep AMD low and could not penetrate the market. It's a miracle AMD has 25 % of the server market and will continue to grow, cause INTEL is not capable of good products. They can only give them away. The whole industry changed. 15 years ago we had progression in videogames. These days we have regression. Bad optimazation, nothing is pushing the CPU's and GPU's. Red dead redemption was a game that could run at 4k 60 fps 2 years later. But ofcourse negative video's score better than positive.

[mentalplayground]

Curve Optimizer is more about undervolting

[bfish]

This is going to be a banger in laptop. I'm waiting on strix Halo but the avx 512 support is huge for rpcs3.

[uncannygambit]

Correction, MSI was first out with connectors on the backside with the MSI Pro B650M Project Zero. It's been available for a couple of months now.

[Gattberserk]

X3D variant is coming this year, as soon as sept. so its alot faster than expected

[ROCKSWOT]

9900X compared to 14900k for 9900X to be able to boast with performance gains. 9950x would show almost the same performance of 9900X in gaming, which could be perceived as not that much, but when gaming performance bench is shown with 9900X it seems like a good uplift in gains?

[Pillokun]

those usd prices on 7th gen ryzen are crazy compared to what they cost in the nordic countries.

[deabreu.tattoo]

Lol, I'm still rocking a 1400 and the AVX thing may be what makes me finally upgrade. PS3 emulation is the next frontier for me.