DRIFT vs GRIP : Which is faster? - DK Tsuchiya tests with Nissan BNR32 GT-R Group A

Translator : Yusuke Sasaki - 佐々木勇介

Contents of this video
0:00 - Intro
9:46 - BNR32 GRIP RUN
5:05 - BNR32 DRIFT RUN
7:36 - Ending

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[Dinosbacsi]

It's nice to see a Drift vs Grip video where they don't insist on holding the drift through the whole corner. That kind of driving is obviously slower, only for show. But these smaller angle, shorter drifts that actually use the car's momentum and weigth shift can be fast, this is the kind of drifting I adore and love, not the ones you see on a regular drifting event.

Though I still have my doubt if it could be faster than grip driving, but I bet it could be close. Would love to see a proper race or a time trial with more laps and the proper settings, as Tsuchiya himself has mentioned as well.

[dd-oqjm]

In a 20 lap race, drifting will chew up the tyres. Part of racing is tyre conservation so that you still have grip towards the end of the race.

[williamb]

My bet is with the in-between area. Some would call it the "slip angle" most would still call it drifting though.

[RezboaDog]

I love smaller drifts that help the car rotate in corners. Tsuchiya-san really shows his skills with minimal angle slides. I love watching him go for speed with grip too.

[mattheworvillefirdauzi]

Let’s not forget any GT-R with the ATTESA system is very difficult to drift or even powerslide properly. Tsuchiya-san is god hand and god foot in one.

[pricklypear]

Subject old as drifting itself, but when DK's speaking, we listen 🙌✊❤

[zeruiahwild]

I love how in the video if you see his grip laps and drift laps they are almost identical and from the beginning we are told that he is going "all out", He was known for his driving style utilizing slip angles, rotation, or as we are seeing it as drift techniques. If you notice in the grip video his steering wheel is still more or less straight in the corners, this is because he is sliding all four wheel through the turn, just enough to be faster than both drift or grip, because he is using both. (it is also why the end times are so similar to each other) I love seeing the Drift King making a new video for the younger generations and to show how using both is how we get faster!

[TheRguru]

It's scary how technical the course is. The car never gets a chance to settle between corners. And Tsuchiya still makes it look easy.

[junkieshere]

Fastest is using whatever is in ones arsenal. Not All corner or corners are the same. Some grip in grip out is faster, while others a shallow angle drift in and grip out will be quicker or even drift out to setup for the next corner might be the answer. Who knows. But having drift skills does help.

[justinl]

This test could definitely be better and more scientific, having different Cars, FF, FR, AWD~even different wheelbases for the tests. Also having the laps to be full Grip and Fast drift laps along with taking each kind of corners into account. By full grip I mean full laps without the the car going into a drift like some tight corners in the Grip laps. I believe this would help more people understand the difference in time for drift and grip.

[michaelpan]

The key thing is maintaining proper slip angle throughout the corner. Every pro driver uses this to extract the maximum cornering grip of the tire. The problem with the setup of this R32 is similar to that of the new BRZ, and somewhat of the GR86. It understeers, and then oversteers under throttle. It won’t turn in on entry like an S2000.

[norman]

I'm extremely impressed with Tsuchiya san's restraint on the grip portion.

[rakistangpinoy]

Takeshi Nakazato joined the discussion.

[cybersteel]

I think there's a bit of confusion here. Grip racers use trail braking to introduce slip angle, which is indeed a bit of a slide in the middle of the corner. That's what the DK is referring to - a bit of angle to face towards the exit sooner and throttling out of the corner is quite ideal, and is used regularly.

I'm pretty sure we all came here to see some wicked handbrake rips and massive drift angle through the whole corner, from entry to exit. That's obviously slower, and is not demonstrated in this video for that reason.

In my opinion, all of his laps were quite similar - he got plenty of angle in his grip run, but he accelerated a bit early out of some corners and kicked out the back-end. The true fastest way to race is definitely in between these two techniques.

[DanjaBis]

So nice to hear the engine noise! Great sound 👌👌

[BourneThisWay]

No transfer cases were harmed in the making of this video.

[nigelsmith]

Like the tarmac rally drivers it's a mix of grip and drift probably around 70%grip 30%drift and let's be honest you don't get better drivers that the WRC

[dho]

Hey carprime, I'm really loving all the video ideas that are coming out, there's some amazing content that I've been wanting to see for a while now. One criticism I have is that you need to be more careful about the on board footage. The gopro inside is getting overexposed a lot and you can't see the road/driving at all in many moments because it's too bright. There's a lot of valuable driving footage so I would love to see it all. I think that it would be nice to have a footwork camera and a Aim solo 2 or similar so you can use a telemetry overlay on the driving footage. It's more work but I think it'll make the driving footage much more valuable. Cheers!

[scotty]

I agree with a lot of people saying that it is merely situation based where an entry drift can be beneficial. My example is when I was karting, the whole track I was hard on grip and getting the right driving line and being right on the edge of traction using all the trac I could squeeze my kart on. The last corner is a sharp hairpin left with plenty of track before the corner. My mate is infront, he takes a wide entry angle to clip the apex but he ended up being a bit wide, I came in super hot with a sharper entry angle to the apex, I threw myself in sideways, drifting basically straight at him as he is mid corner, my angle pushing me infront of him as I managed to get traction just on the apex, putting power down exiting the corner taking it wide down the straight and took the 🏆
I am by know means at all a racing or drifting expert haha. Though I feel this sort of drifting DK displayed is purely the only way it could be faster in situations rather than just drifting every corner because you can.

[davidestrada]

Following from Spain, Tsuchiya-san you're the best!!!