Why Do Many Catholics Reject Geocentrism?

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[Romero]

Dr Robert Sungenis, Sir, you are the man ! Thank you for all that you do.

[pirigal]

Thank you Dr Robert Sungenis, I’m a new convert and I think I’m getting my new knowledge from the best of bests. May God protect and bless you!

[scottblacker]

This is a condensed version of Roberts documentary "journey to the centre of the universe" which is great. Love the condensed version to share more easily with friends and family.

[kyrieeleison]

I am shocked to hear a supposedly "trad" priest claim that there is a strictly "scientific" sphere that exists outside of the "theological" sphere. If God created Heaven and Earth, then every iota of scientific knowledge is revealing more about His Creation and His Will for us.

[josephanuga]

I wonder why you think Fr Robinson's views are those of the SSPX... I believe Kennedy Hall has a detailed explanation of the relationship between the SSPX and the Papacy.
I find your work very interesting and I hope to learn more. Thank you for your work 🙏🏿✝️

[DrJonathanGemmill]

Excellent show on Geocentrism 👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️!
I disagree with you about the SSPX though.
I disagree with Fr Paul Robisnon on Geocentrism.
Thanks again 🙂!
God bless, Ave Maria 🙏⛪⚓👑!

[KevJamesClarke]

Q . Robert. If the stars are in rotation around us, would we not see tracers, like we see with comets that have tails?

Thanks for your work and persistence.

[mZaoa]

Speaking of the Mass, didn't Trent state that the Tridentine Mass was never to be abrogated, unless he who does so feels the wrath of Saints Peter and Paul, and even God Himself?

[jamesstewart]

Fantastic job Dr Sungenis. Thanks for your hard work in research. I hope the SSPX Priest is willing to have a public conversation and debate. Maybe he will concede tunnel vision and just make it a conversation.

[espressocoffeeshine]

What you are saying about geocentricism is interesting.
But you lose credibility by going after Archbishop Lefebvre and by extension, St. Athanasius. By extension Bishop Castro de Mayer. By extension Archbishop Vigano. By extension, now bishop Strickland. By extension Fr. Gruner and Fr. Paul Kramer who's conferences you can be seen on YouTube videos attending. You need to study your Catholic faith, repent and do penance, and apologize for your attempted character assassination's.
The science of Fernanad Crombette has proven that Mount Calvary is the center of the world!
Technically if the universe had a wobble that keep the earth in the center as it went around the sun in a heliocentric system, it would still be still with the universe moving, and it would not be contrary to Holy Scriptures, or Pope Urban VIII, or Pope Paul V. I also have a right to say your nose is in the center of your face. Even if you measured it, and proved it is off center. That is, from God's perspective, the little the earth would be off center if it traveled around the sun, is not enough to claim such movement makes such a statement of Holy Scripture false. But, that would apparently make what Pope Urban VIII and Pope Paul V said false.
Some say the whole universe is spiraling through space. Even so, the spiral could be so that earth is moving in a straight line remaining in the center of the universe. But would such a linear movement be contrary to the teachings of Pope Paul V and Pope Urban VIII?
There is a pope that said we have to take Genesis literally unless science proves otherwise. He was referring to real scholastic science and not modern secular theory they claim is science but is just theory. But does such a teaching from the magisterium keep the "always and everywhere condition" necessary for Pope Urban VIII and Pope Paul V to be infallible doctrine rather then non-infallible magisterium? In your quote of Pope Paul V, he is saying its a matter of faith. Most people claim they don't have to believe it because it's a matter of science, not faith.
The reason why Traditionalists reject some non-infallible magisterium from after 1958 is because it is contrary to previous or earlier teachings of the magisterium or it's contrary to already established historical precedent. That is not the case with the teachings of Pope Paul V and Pope Urban VIII.
Looks like the evidence is we have to take Genesis literally because science has not proven anything beyond reasonable doubt. Looks like the evidence is we have to believe in geocentricism or "universe wobble" to not be guilty of at least a mortal sin or maybe heresy!

[nannimanfrin]

Very thorough, thank you and God bless. Btw isn't E. Michael Jones a participant in geocentric conferences?

[clarekuehn]

Thumbnail can mislead. You mean "... called it a formal heresy to do so." Thanks.

[CMBAxis]

This video could be good, but the rant on the SSPX in general (not Fr. Robinson in particular) is slipshod and a caricature. Archbishop Lefebvre never claimed to found a church or say that the SSPX was the the Church. Like Sungenis, who independently criticizes the modern church, the SSPX merely points out modern doctrines and reforms by Modernist Rome and awaits for them to be corrected by a future Pope. It does not reject everything. In the meantime however the SSPX keeps to Tradition, and does not obsequiously embrace or compromise with the reforms. The SSPX not being infallible, of course, can of course err on geocentrism. That is understood. Sungenis does well to point out the inconsistency there.

[MrDLiver]

Also why would the universe be rotating? How could one account for such a huge force and what would it be ascribed to?

[pyroclasm]

Hi Robert, thanks for this great summary. i really enjoyed your books and seeing all the evidence and arguments from both science and Church teaching, I am certainly becoming more and more convinced of the geocentrism position.

I would like to point out 2 things.

1) Fr Robinson's position on heliocentrism and old universe is not the SSPX's position, but his own private opinion.

2) although there is an irregular canonical status of the SSPX, they are not in schism. Kennedy Hall has a good book on this "SSPX the Defence"

And a sunday obligation can be fulfilled there (as for example canon lawyer Fr Murray clarified).

Living in Belgium, I don't have the luxury to just go to my own parish Mass as it is filled with modernist heresies which St. Pius X condemned. I am happy that in the USA you have this possibility! And from your standpoint, the crisis, of which Mgr Lefebvre spoke, may not be as obvious.

[CaptainIvanDanko]

Hey Robert, quick question and apologies if this has been addressed already. Do you believe there are other solar systems? If so, is there a central planet in each one that has the sun and other planets revolving around it? Or do those actually have planets going around their sun? Thanks in advance!

[ROBERTWELSH-be]

Thank you so much dr Sungenis, , for explaining the Holy Spirit does not change its mind, nor could Joshua have asked God to stop the sun and moon unless the earth was fixed !

[johncharleson]

With that list of heresies Father Robinson is SSPX?

[johncharleson]

About 1:15--absolutely uneccessary conflation of the SSPX with Father Robinsons's views. In fact, rather ironic as the SSPX is otherwise staunchly Traditional . Sungenis really screwed up here unless more 'Popesplaining' is forthcoming.

[MrDLiver]

If planets and stars can rotate faster than the speed of light these 'impossible' rotations should be observed by radio telescopes. So where's the evidence for that?