ASUS... Why are you the way that you are?!

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Well... ASUS is at it again... now that Intel has had to get involved with Motherboard manufacturers killing CPUs by not following their spec requirements for "out of box" settings, ASUS apparently still cant read a F*CKING chart...

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Great video Jay! ASUS really needs calling out on this BIOS. SUPER important people do NOT adjust the IccMax amperage upwards from 280A limit IF they've loaded "Intel Baseline Profile" on ASUS' latest BIOS. That profile sets the SVID (loadline) to a setting called "Intel's Fail Safe". This is a misleading ASUS name, as it is neither from Intel, nor safe. "Intel's Fail Safe" SVID can (and this varies by CPU and motherboard model) put up to 1.67v Vcore into a 14900KS! Above 1.5v should only be for short durations. Please always keep ASUS' "SVID" setting at AUTO, unless your CPU is already unstable with all other settings and still needs more loadline to be stable. "AUTO" SVID + 400A/320W/320W results in a safe Vcore and is OK to use.

Falcon_Northwest
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I won't buy ASUS again due to issues with my current ASUS motherboard and their dodgy warranty support.

Optimiser
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This is absolutely the least of ASUS' problems. Their borderline criminal behavior regarding warranties (see Gamer's Nexus and Louis Rossman's separate videos on the topic) are more than enough for me to realize this is a company that stopped caring about it's customers a LONG time ago, and it's just sad.

jcpahman
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Been buying EVGA and ASUS the past 20 years. First EVGA ditches Nvidia, and now ASUS going haywire with everything they do. It's sad to see how thing are these days.

CarlizWang
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Actually this video saved my machine. I've had my machine for a year (13900KF), and for the past few months, I keep getting random crashes in games, and even random Blue-screens. (Hell divers II would crash within 5 minutes). Changing the settings on my MB made my system stable again. If the problems come back, at least I know my CPU *IS* damaged and what to replace. Thank you ever so much!

arthurmoyer
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Thank you for making this video! Hearing this I wish I hadn't gone for an ASUS motherboard when I built the latest computer. Core i9 12900. I had SO many issues with the system being "overclocked by default" and all I wanted was to run EVERYTHING *stock* and within SAFE limits. Building a machine like the one I built is too much money to overclock and mess around with.

Had SEVERAL e-mails go back and forth between myself an ASUS before I managed to figure out how to set up the BIOS to run what at least feels like "not overclocked". All I want is for the computer to run reliably for a very long time and not die prematurely because of pushing this or that component too

doskungen
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Asus "In Search of Incredible" = "In Search of Your Wallets"

Chris_
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What makes this worse is not everyone is tech savvy and will likely not go into the bios to make these changes and cook their cpu. Intel's settings should be automatically default so that nobody has problems.

jamesbarlett
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im glad to see that even Jay hits the del key nonstop during restart 😂

john-wjks
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Hey Jay, you need to do a final update video on this. ASUS just released another BIOS update for my ROG STRIX Z790-E that looks like it fixed everything you mentioned in this video!

From Update Notes:
1. Introduce the ""Performance Preferences"" with options for Intel Default Settings (Performance/Extreme) and ASUS Advanced OC Profile.
2. Redefine the factory defaults based on Intel’s new ""Intel Default Settings"" for various CPU SKUs.
3. Change F5 from ""Load Optimized Defaults"" to ""Reset to Defaults"".
4. Add warnings when users switch from the defaults to other settings.

Thanks for all the great videos that are informative and entertaining.

Major-Whoosh
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A company's reputation for their customer service is the key. For years I heard that ASUS's has been going downhill so I avoided them when making my latest system. Then there's all this info about them killing CPUs and being dodgy with warranties. EK I heard their customer service was bad so I avoided them when I water-cooled my system and several months later all that stuff came out.

TL;DR: Avoid companies with a bad reputation for their customer service.

If they can't stand by their product and fix things when they break it then there's something rotten under the surface.

AstralRaeTV
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I'm so grateful with the platform that you hold and how you hold companies accountable for their actions. Especially love when you call them out on their bullshit. Keep fighting for the working man.

liddster
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Hardware unboxed showed where Intel said these boards were in spec in the past and have now changed their tune since it is causing problems for Intel.

Norman_Fleming
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Me in my cheap ASSRock motherboard: "Haha, look at these fools."

DSergo
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Thank you so much Jay. I recently built a new computer and decided to go with an Intel/Asus motherboard combo. Never again. I was shocked by your video and immediately went and checked mine's BIOS. Same scenario on a i7 14700kf cpu with their boards. Settings were almost the exact same as your video is.

jamesblacklord
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If it aint broken, keep making changes until it is.

Elvewizzy.
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I love when Jay gets this animated, it means something is legitimately not right. Even a noob can look at a chart and set things up from it, and ASUS is far from a noob. I guess the free range dog analogy is on point.

bradbrowatzke
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Jay, I live about 45 minutes from their headquarters, do you need me to hold a sign that says, "FIX YOUR S**T!"

workinprogress
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Great video, installed the latest version and tought "default should be intel preset", after the installation my system was extremly unstable. Had to install an older version to fix it. Now I installed the new version again and set everything to intel default (that button is so easy to overlook) and my system is as stable as it could be.
HW: 12900k, z690 gaming f, 2x32gb 6000mhz corsair dominator (couldn't run stable with asus settings on their newest bios version)

siedenburg
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I use since day 1 on my 13900k back Jan-2023 @ 5.4mhz PL1 125w/PL2 253w (Undervolted offset -0.50v) and set TjMax 90c getting Cb23= 38237

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