Lies and Delusions 2: Shelley Lubben Slurs Away at UCLA

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Shelley Lubben addresses a stupefied audience at UCLA School of Law's "Condoms In The Adult Film Industry" panel, November 18, 2010.

Her voice badly slurred, Lubben struggles to find her place in her prepared notes, but manages to get off some astounding lies and distortions. She states that 111 people have died from AIDS in the adult industry; that porn conventions keep inviting her back because they love her (and Pink Cross Foundation) so much; and that anyone who speaks on behalf of the adult film industry is mentally ill.

Someone get this woman some help before she hurts herself. This is truly pitiful.

Lubben admits she has been hearing voices since age 7, when Jesus told her that one day she'd be famous. She also claims that the Lord visited her in person on porn sets: "God hung out with me when I did those movies. He drove me nuts. I was like, 'Leave me alone.'" On the 700 Club TV show she said, of her time on porn sets, "[God] used to come in the room and go, 'Please don't do this.' He really did. He said, 'Shelley please don't do this.'"

Lubben has also admitted, "I was diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder, Impulse Control Disorder, Alcohol Dependence, Depressive Disorder and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. I was prescribed zoloft, sleeping pills, lithium and counseling" but "He [the Lord] has completely restored me. I am totally free from drugs, alcohol, bad memories, mental illness, sexual trauma, guilt from the past, and everything from the old life."

St. Shelley now claims that all her porn scenes 17 years ago were actually "brutal rape." Naturally, she never filed any police reports, and of course she cashed the checks.
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The "111 AIDS deaths" comes from using the number of deaths among men who appeared in gay porn. Remember, straight porn tests performers BEFORE they’re allowed to enter the talent pool, and monthly thereafter, while the gay side does not do any testing.

There’s no system in place from keeping HIV+ men out of gay porn and no way to track where the gay performers became infected - outside the industry or in it. People with AIDS making porn movies before they died doesn't mean porn killed them.

MichaelWhiteacre
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@AnthonyJKenn Anthony, please remind me -- when was it that the definition of "I" was changed to mean "everybody"?

MichaelWhiteacre
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@MarkBerkeley Instead, she uses inflammatory terms like "rape" to describe her time in porn. "Rape" has a definition, and consensual employment which SHE sought (no one kidnapped her) for which she signed a contract and model release, for which she was paid (she cashed the checks) and for which she filed NO police report DOES NOT QUALIFY. If she's remorseful about her terrible life choices, that's not the fault of he adult film industry. She sure has no problem cashing in on her time in porn now

MichaelWhiteacre
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Its funny the length the "porn industry" goes to to demoize this women. I'm beginning to think that rather than being "crazy, " there's an element of truth behind her comments.

MarkBerkeley
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I liked that one too, It reminded me of one of the ex-gay ministries, after reeling off all the horrible health problems faced by gay men, someone asked about lesbians...she sputtered and mentioned lesbians are "more likely to have car accidents."

emmaduncan
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None of them claim that all porn performers are mentally ill, diseased, drug addicted trained seals, as you do. They don't claim that 20 year olds are too stupid to understand a simple model release. They don't call porn modern day slavery. They don't fail to account for non-cash contributions on their taxes. And these are not the only reasons you're a liar and a fraud-- we've proven your lies FROM YOUR OWN LIPS in our documentary. Lots more to come. Brace yourself for a whole new round, babe.

MichaelWhiteacre
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@MarkBerkeley Lubben claims she has a Bachelor's of Theology degree from Vision International University -- a non-accredited college and diploma mill. But Vision’s website doesn’t offer that degree, it only offers a Bachelor of Ministry degree.

She says she’s an ordained Chaplain of the Order of St. Martin - a non-charity group whose address is a single-family home in Mission Viejo, CA. Becoming a Chaplain means you fill out some paperwork and get a letter from your local Body of Christ.

MichaelWhiteacre
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I wouldn't be surprised if she has someone else bankrolling her from behind the scenes, like the AFA or someone like that.

emmaduncan
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@MarkBerkeley It's only suspicious because she has made claims of fact which she has not proved, some which are unprovable by anyone, and others which are patently false. When someone like Lubben, whose substantial livelihood depends upon her passing herself off as a victim of porn, passes off lies, distortions and assumptions as facts, one must doubt her motives. Why not simply come clean?
She has offered NO PROOF that this was her "lived experience."

MichaelWhiteacre
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@MarkBerkeley How is it that I am maligning someone when I'm using their own words? Shelley Lubben's worst enemy is herself.

My agenda? I believe that sunlight is the best disinfectant. I believe the truth can and will set you free. I hope and pray that she gets the help she has needed for so very long. Furthermore, I am ashamed to see organizations who are supposed to promote the public interest trotting out a sick woman for their own ends. She's like Norman Beale in "Network."

MichaelWhiteacre
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I really liked what the great Melissa Monet said in the documentary, about porn preformers being "very aware of our bodies" from what I could tell it seemed that the safety and health of everyone involved is pretty paramount. And for being "Mentally ill" unlike Shelley Lubben, Ms. Monet and Nina Hartley are articulate, smart, and beautiful women, who defend their industry, with grace and class. unlike the frothing, nonsensical, rantings of Lubbens.

emmaduncan
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@MarkBerkeley The lengths the industry goes to? This is a clip of her speaking in public. There's no commentary on the video. Nothing she says here is true. 111 people in the adult industry died of AIDS? She is lying.

Look at the tax returns for Pink Cross Foundation (they're on her website). She paid herself just under $50, 000 in salary and benefits in 2009 out of the $125, 000 Pink Cross received in donations. That doesn't include her travel, hotels & incidentals.

MichaelWhiteacre
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@namasteywhat No, she goes after porn stars, call them sick, mentally ill, possessed by Satan, drug addicted, etc... She fosters a stereotype which represents ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS WHY ex-porn stars have difficulty re-integrating into the "straight, " non-porn world. And, for the record "all the ex-film stars" do NOT agree with Shelley. In addition, I'd be more inclined to accept Lubben's story if ANYONE who was there with her at that time remembers events as she does now.

MichaelWhiteacre
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MichaeWhiteacre, just seems like your trying too hard to malign this women. Makes me wonder what MichaelWhiteacre's agenda is?

MarkBerkeley
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@slubben Ahhh, Ministeress?? Last time I checked, none of the starlets you quoted (not even Jenna) claimed to universalize their personal experiences as representative of every single porn starlet. Nor did they refer to all porn performers as "diseased", "drug addled" or mentally ill.

Shelley, if you want to decry hypocrisy, you might want to look in the mirror. It reflects it right back at you..in spades.


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AnthonyJKenn
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I think if your in anyway involved in the adult industry and you happen to die, you make Shelley's list as a "porn casualty" "Oh My God, I was out hiking in a lightning storm, and I was hit by a bolt of lighning!" Shelley Lubben: "You killed yourself, because of porn."

emmaduncan
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wait...next they are going to tie in women who watch porn or read the 50 shades of grey book will be more likely to develop breast cancer...

emmaduncan
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This cuckoo's memorial reel features people in porn who died. Not people in porn who were killed. By porn. (Really, what a lunatic Shelley Lubben is. I have long maligned - to just myself, mostly - the way women are portrayed in porn today. The level and extent of the aggression dealt the women performers do bother me a little. That said, I fully recognize the following: women's portrayal in porn is a matter of perspective and opinion; this portrayal that I'm seeing does not necessarily reflect a particular actress's own feelings about the film; and the porn industry offers choice at every turn - choose whether to enter the business, choose your experiences while in it, choose when to leave it, choose whether or which type of porn to view and support, etc. And Shelley and her ranting have pushed me *toward* the side of porn advocate, rather than doing the opposite.)

TheStaticPony
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@namasteywhat I've interviewed Lubben's contemporaries and co-stars, INDEPENDENTLY of each other, and they all tell the same story -- 180 degrees apart from what Shelley claims. Shelley has NO evidence that what she claims is true. NONE. Now that she looks back on her brief time in porn with a religious perspective she even claims that SATRAN himself actually entered her body to help her get through a gang bang. The Devil. Does that sound rational to you?

MichaelWhiteacre
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@namasteywhat So, a few people agree with Lubben, and MANY many more disagree - -yet you claim that only those with a negative view are correct. And in any case, I don't know that any of these people are qualified to diagnose anyone as mentally ill. Certainly not Lubben, who herself was diagnosed as Bipolar, and prescribed lithium and zoloft, -- but of course she doesn't need to take those medications now because God told her he healed her. That's your oracle, your prophet. Spare me.

MichaelWhiteacre