McDougall and Sugar Diet

Dr. Kempner's Rice Diet delivered impressive results in disease-reversal and weight loss. A starch-based diet which can include sugar promotes weight loss. But with very overweight patients, Kempner always used calorie restriction to achieve results with the Rice Diet.

Dr. McDougall does not use the Rice Diet at his program. None of Dr. McDougall's patients eats a sugar-based or high- or fairly-high sugar diet. They eat a starch based diet and can add some sugar if desired. There are occasional "treat" desserts on the McDougall program which may be high in sugar.

On occasion, Dr. McDougall says, he may recommend the Kempner Rice Diet to a severely ill patient who is struggling. However, we know of no cases in which he has actually put a patient on the Rice Diet, he has never publicly related such a case.

Although McDougall talks about the Rice Diet at times, it seems he discusses it for two main reasons: 1) to underscore his point on how effective a simple starch based diet can be, since the Rice Diet is an extreme version of it, and 2) to let people know how much the regular McDougall program -- which some may feel is quite strict -- is actually quite liberal. So, Dr. McDougall may tell a patient, "If you don't do well with my program, I will put you on the Kempner program!" And he is actually making the patient realize that, by comparison to Kempner, they have it easy on McDougall's program.

At the McDougall program, no sugar sweetened beverages are served, such as soft drinks. Participants may add sugar to their tea, etc.

People can lose weight on any diet, so long as calories are controlled. One can even lose weight with soft drinks. However, it is much easier to lose weight on a satisfying starch-based diet which provides much more satisfy volume and fiber.

Years ago Dr. McDougall licensed his name for a company called "McDougall's Right Foods." McDougall has no actual control over the company, other than an agreement that the products are always vegan and low fat. When asked why some of the Right Foods are high in sodium, Dr. McDougall says it's been explained to him that "no salt, no sale." The company tested low-salt products, and they were rejected by the customers. There was no market for lowfat, vegan -- and low-salt -- packaged foods.

Dr. McDougall often says the products are called "Right Foods" not "Perfect Foods," because they are not products to live off of, but they are a packaged product that can help in certain situations, such as having an easy-to-carry lowfat vegan dish to bring on a plane or an extended car trip.

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[jawbaw]

What? 400-800 calories a day. Anybody would lose weight regardless of what they ate!

That is for rapid weight loss. And as you said people would still lose it with higher calories and regular exercise but it would take longer. Nice video

[cruciferousvegetable]

Thanks for this video. I noticed how everyone else who discusses this diet completely omits the fact that it is a 400 to 800 calorie diet. I saw some of the text said always under 1000 calories.
Though I am vegan for life, I have no doubt that you could reverse diabetes, high bp, and lose tons of weight eating 400 to 800 calories of pig fat if you wanted to. I should have read the book and the studies myself, but I do feet let down by everyone who touted this diet without mentioning calories. After 6 years vegan and a ton of research, personal experience, experimentation and a diabetes diagnosis, my conclusion is that there is no escaping "calories in-calories out".

[veganpowercouple]

I can't believe everyone always omitted the fact that they were on extremely low calorie diets.

[franzabananza]

I been searching all over for information on how this diet effects weight loss and I finally found your vid! Thanks for sharing!

[kellybananabelly]

Throwing at Durianrider lol nah but in all seriousness, I find it ridiculous how DR is twisting McDougall's advice and research, it's laughable. Are refined sugars healthier than animal fat, I would say yes, but recommending 3000+ calories of refined sugar such as SPRITE is NOT a good weight loss method. And I don't wanna hear "well I'm so how do you explain that?" DR is lean naturally anyway, that's his body type, he has a different metabolism, he exercises a lot, he is a well trained athlete/cyclist and needs that energy. His advice doesn't work for everyday people.

[returnedfrompanama]

The same diet would cause people to lose weight even if the calorie intake were “normal “. They would just lose the weight slower. They key here is high carb (even from sugar) low fat - regardless of the number of calories consumed.

[MartinPlanner]

they only limited the calories to achieve shorter term results, yes i know it still took them a year but that is short term when we consider it's only 1% of the patient's lifespan or even less, and all that fat took more than 10-20%of their life to put on. so the extreme undereating was necessary to make shorter term results, still with 2k-3kCal it can be achieved the same because it allows for even more excercise which is NOT linear to intake, and altough it might take longer than a year to lose that much weight, the nature of the less intensive weight loss is more comfortable and easier to adjust to for the body, because of some of our body functional cycles have long timers like 3-6months to repair certain parts of the body, thus a slower weight loss and muscle build process gives better long term results.
this was just common sense.

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Expect a slew of tumblr posts and possibly a video or two slandering Mr Nelson appearing on DurianRider's HATE OUTLETS shortly.

I imagine Durianrider helped Jeff fix his bike, introduce him to his wife, paced him up the hill, showed him nothing but support, helped him get on youtube etc etc....

[Sharpbevel]

You will lose weight on virtually any food if it's restricted to 800-1000 cal a day with exercise.

[m.m.schill]

Thanks for sharing this. Among all the pseudo science some vegans are throwing around on youtube, this is both helpful and refreshing--a return to sanity.

[LyleVertigo]

Problem with rapid weightloss is rapid weight gain. I've done it twice, losing over 140lbs each time and all it took was a monkey wrench to cause it all to come back.

This time I'm losing slowly using my workout regiment with a slow taper to food intake. Just after 2 weeks I'm getting full on half as much but still enjoying the food that I like.

[brendae]

I'm doing the diet, on my own. I'm using flavored rice, like Uncle Ben's flavor rice, also mixing teriyaki sauce in my rice, and eating it with just the fruit. I also eat Spanish rice that I make up my own, or the boxed yellow rice and I'll put olives in it. I've been doing this now two days and I lost two pounds already but I'm not doing a strict part of the diet I have to have flavor on my rice

[charminglad]

Great video Vegsource..:) I don't need to lose weight but I am diabetic, what can you tell me about this in relation to my disease, thank you in advance..Steve

[andeander]

If i eat mostly whole foods and low fat, it must be ok to use simple sugars on my heavy trainingdays? Its hard to get the calories in if its only whole foods, i don't eat nuts, avocados and other high fat foods with simple sugars i only consume high fat foods sparringly. Love your channel ❤️🍓🥝🥦🍏

[lucybrookes]

Thanks Jeff. Why anyone would listen to Harley over Dr Mcdougall is beyond me. Despite Mcdougall clarifying his position, Harley still made videos saying he promotes refined sugar. Just manipulating his audience and giving people a dangerous message.

[sn]

Thank you for sharing details in the book. What is up with the double headed baby doll in the background?

[ktkole]

Just wondering—is it the diet itself or the low calories and the fact of losing the weight? These people were all obese. What about people who aren’t obese but have HBP, Diabetes, etc.?

[Musika]

where can we get that paper you showed us? I looked online and couldn't find it. thanks!

[theprogram]

I’m on the rice solution diet. I have the book . I’m allowed 1000-1200 calories a day .