Federico Faggin | Bernardo Kastrup: Quantum Physics, Spirituality & Consciousness

This was an excerpt from a 5-week discussion series with Bernardo Kastrup, Nov 2022, with guest Federico Faggin.

Federico Faggin is an Italian-American physicist, engineer, inventor and entrepreneur. He is best known for designing the first commercial microprocessor, the Intel 4004. In 2010, he received the 2009 National Medal of Technology and Innovation, the highest honor the United States confers for achievements related to technological progress.

In 2011, Faggin founded the Federico and Elvia Faggin Foundation to support the scientific study of consciousness at US universities and research institutes.

Bernardo considers him ‘probably the most well-rounded Idealist alive today.’

We discussed:

Federico's journey to his model of reality
How science must completely change to incorporate consciousness
How quantum states make sense when viewed as descriptions of experience
How consciousness and life are nothing like computers
How meditation, spirituality and science relate

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[Smeegheed]

It's wonderful that conversation at this level can be brought into my living room. So many connections which align with my knowings and path. It's like just the right group of guys were in my living room, talking about everything I'm interested in while I listen intently. I thank all of you... this is truly valuable😊

[bprzemo]

Thank You, My Lord, that I lived so long to see how the stubborn and orthodox way of science starts changing.

[ilariamenapace]

‘The non-understanding of quantum physics is not an intellectual problem, it’s a psychological problem’ ✨ thank you Federico Faggin for saying this out loud 👏🏻

[LindaRichardson-xv]

Tom Campbell, retired NASA physicist, wrote My Big TOE about (almost) exactly your brilliant insights/theories here, Dr. Faggin. CUSAC, Center for the Unification of Consciousness and Science, is his website about it. There is an upcoming (September 29th -October 4th, 2024), symposium of scientists working on proving that physical reality is virtual, consciousness is fundamental. The time for a huge shift in science is here! So exciting!

[ALavin-enkr]

It is heartening that Mr. Faggin had a true experience. It is native and second nature to us to know the nature of reality to be more than gross matter. Hopefully, it will happen to others who cannot seem to comprehend anything else, especially those who hold high positions in science.  

In the higher ages those who could not comprehend anything other than matter were assigned to the lowest cast and confined to sweeping the streets. Today they hold high positions and unfortunately pass on their incomprehension to a younger generation.

[Catherine-NYC]

This is the most elegant concept I’ve heard since Rupert Spira’s description of non-duality. What a revelation! Suddenly everything falls into place from the logical point of view (for me purely experiential somehow was never enough, I was craving an additional explanation, like a second form of ID).

[IntuitArt-rbbr]

Panpsychism clarified by both Bernardo and Federico @1:13:11 Thanks to both of you for this amazing conversation. I'll listen again. And again.

[benmaxinm]

So psychodelics are new means (instruments) for measurements of the nature of reality? I knew it!!! Hearing all these discussions draws main conclusion for me: we should all start giving much more room to the intuition rather than just to materialism.

[filip]

Such rich and interesting conversation, indeed bringing two points of view together. And what a timely moment of publication, with the news of the last few days of the Z80 retiring from production. I did not know about Mr. Faggin until last year or so, but for me the Z80 was the heart of my MSX home computer back in the 80s on which I learned to program, also in assembler, and it is still my first love. Then to learn that both of my main interests in life, computing and spirituality, are coming together in this one person, is really beautiful.

[scottjacobson]

A person is "congruent" when their outside actions match what they feel on the inside!
A sense of harmony and agreement between self-image and ideal self
When people's behaviors match how they feel and think about a situation, in other words

Copied the definition here..

NOT my own words for this definition..cannot send photo of definitions here

Thank You SOOO MUCH!

FABULOUS PODCAST! 🎉❤

[philwilson]

‘I just love listening to Frederico…so I’m just happy to be here.’ Bernardo Kastrup. Totally agree.

[SholupToklo]

Dude this is exactly what I was trying to explain to my dad yesterday. Thank you!!!

[innerlight]

Both are brilliant! Real gems for western culture.Thanks for uploading!

[demetrioskasabalis]

Superb dialogues! I immensely respect Federico and Bernardo! Thank you to both! If I may humbly make the following remark: "Survival of the fittest" does not mean "Survival of the strongest". It means "Survival of the most adaptive" (to be fit = to be in an optimum state of being). In other words, an organism that most easily adapts to its environment has increased chances of survival.

[MrSomeotheruser]

It takes courage from someone so recognized in the science community to come out and say these things, but as I experience life and explore the things I cannot explain, I realize am getting closer and closer to the same conclusion. And as I practice more and more experiments such as meditations, introspections, it gets easier to perceive these concepts.

[cecilmontgomery]

Time and space are constructs of conciousness and Consciousness being eternal ... All time is now. What is always has been and always will be.

[-RXB-]

Wow, these types of conversations are exactly what I've been looking for. Science and physics mixed with philosophy.

[Robertpupo]

This is the exact narration and ethos of Advaita Vedanta - written 3000 years back

[OfficialGOD]

So Federo sees reality as composed of interconnected conscious entities or "monads" that communicate through quantum information, which has the same characteristics as subjective experience. The evolution of the universe is driven by these conscious entities deepening their self-knowledge and meaning, not just by chance or deterministic physical laws. Laws of physics are more like syntactical rules of language.

[dospirit]

He has arrived to a very similar conclusion as another great physicist, Tom Campbell and his book My Big Theory of Everything (TOE)