Will Astronaut's 8 Day Mission Turn into an 8 Month Mission? Starliner Answers Slowly Emerge.

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Yesterday we had another update on Starliner's extended stay at the ISS, and depending on how things play out we could see the two crew members coming home before the end of the month.... or spending another 6 months in space. Engineers at Boeing and Aerojet may have some idea about the root cause of the thruster failures, but are far from fully understanding the situation and delivering the kind of certainty that NASA decision makers want to see.
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The thing about being a prime contractor is if your subcontractors mess up, it's still your fault.

throx
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Very clever from Scott, making sure he's back in Scotland when criticising Boeing.

drunkenhobo
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Three things

1. Boeing not doing all necessary software tests
2. Ruling critical tests as not relevant
3. Boeing being 'cost sensitive'

Reminds me of the MCAS saga with the 737 Max.

The industry really really want the starliner to work, i just hope Boeing dont mess this

Rock__Dawg
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With SO many clickbait articles about Starliner, it is SO nice to have Scott Manly to provide real updates. Thank you!

alldecadesplaylists
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Starliner -> Scrubliner -> Stayliner -> Stuckliner

Conundrum
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Helium leak, thruster failure, software not certified for full automation, three strikes. In my mind that multiplies the potential risk to an unacceptable level. Probably okay is not okay. Send it back without crew. Install the back seat in the next Dragon mission and bring them all back together. That is what the optional extra seats are for. Cut funding for Starliner to zero. Give all of that budget to Sierra instead. Get Dream Chaser rated for manned missions. Boeing blew it. Time for contingencies not just for this mission but for future missions as well.

stupidburp
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It's just one thing after another with Boeing. Space is hard, but they're supposed to be professionals.

iitzfizz
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ok, I checked because I heard the starliner was dubbed Calypso by Butch.. My memory is correct. Calypso is imprisoned by the Greek gods on an island and she holds a hero hostage for 7 years.. This seems like a fitting name in a way I am sure Butch had not hoped for.

jonmclaughlin
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I miss the “Manley on vacation” video intro where you’re holding a toy rocket and humming the normal video intro music lol

QueenetBowie
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Voyager 1 and 2: Soldiering on since the 1970ies

The Mars Rovers: Absolutely exceeding all the expectations

Starliner: Still up there

Keimzelle
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This mission was supposed to test if the Starliner was ready to use for service. That question was answered on the pad when the thrusters started leaking, but NASA and Boeing refused to accept them.

iainballas
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Entire video in one take and no editing. No autocue. Impressive.

Scott, you're a true youtube pro now!

fredfred
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Software problems also arose early in the Apollo era. Margaret Hamilton discovered a potential problem with the Apollo Guidance Computer (AGC) when her daughter, who often accompanied her to work, was playing in a simulator. Her daughter accidentally selected a prelaunch program (P01) during a flight, something astronauts would normally never do. This incident led Hamilton to alert her superiors and advocate for more robust error handling mechanisms.

Although her warnings were initially ignored, it turned out that this very error had been made by James Lovell during the Apollo 8 mission.

ApolloKid
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I love to believe that Scoot's family doesn t mind him making a youtube video during holydays, not because its work and he has to but because the man just love talking about space and what's happening there, so he has to. :)
Thx Scott. Have a good holydays man.

RustikMcLovin
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"Boeing being very cost sensitive because that's what Boeing does"

That's a super nice way to put it Scott. There's a very fine line between being politically correct and protecting incompetence.

bilthon
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I laughed at the name "Stayliner" in the 1st video, but damn that got serious.

nikkal
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I love the phrase “buy boosters from Amazon”. 😂 I’m wondering what the “people who bought boosters also bought….” Section would say haha 😂

dharmasworld
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::singing:: a three hour tour, a three hour tour...

Emu
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The "just fly it back, it'll be fine" attitude is what went on with the Columbia shuttle reentry disaster. NASA cannot make that mistake again.

Retired-Don
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At least now I understand why Boeing — in spite of Starliner being YEARS behind Dragon — and having all that extra time to witness just how sleek and modern SpaceX's IVA suits are — still sent Butch and Suni into space in those rickety, embarrassingly unflattering outfits with the floppy, unsupported helmets; that left Butch needing to spend HOURS on the pad (both (3?) times) with his hand over his eyes to block the glare of Starliner's lighting which was apparently preventing him from viewing his displays.

They just ... don't ... give ... a ...

DavJumps