Why Sidious Was TERRIFIED of Dooku After Dueling Yoda - Star Wars Explained

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[crownprincesebastianjohano]

My final note. Sidious had other reasons to fear Dooku. Unlike his other apprentices, Dooku was a finished product and a peer and rival in every sense. Dooku was groomed to become Jedi Grand Master and was only eclipsed by Yoda in knowledge of the Light Side. He was an accomplished diplomat and political leader. Dooku was an immensely popular and effective Head of State. Dooku already had a detailed knowledge of the Dark Side before he ever met Sidious. Combine these traits and you have a mirror image of Palpatine and a true rival.

[CarrieQ]

For someone who had SO many sets of Plot Armor stacked against him, Dooku really is one of the most underrated badasses in all of Star Wars.

[grandadmiralzaarin]

Something else to note is that Dooku also got the holocron of Darth Andeddu, if he'd kept it, instead of delivering it to his Master, he would have learned essence transfer. With access to cloning technology and the wealth to fund it, Dooku could have taken his eight decades of experience in the Light and Dark and placed it inside a body in its prime.

With his control of the CIS, his Dark Side Acolytes and the ever present trump card of being able to reveal Sidious, Tyranus had the best opportunity to take over the Sith...but he made the mistake of remaining loyal.

[rayruiz]

Remember one thing in revenge of the sith, dooku thought he was supposed to be arrested not killed. So he really wasn't fighting at 100% when he was fighting Anakin. He was supposed to tempt Anakin to the dark side instead of trying to kill him. I am not saying that Anakin wasn't powerful but just like Vader later on when fighting Luke on the second death star, he wasn't fighting to kill Luke at all. If Vader had wanted to kill Luke Skywalker he could have. Even with Luke's anger

[SomeWiseGuy.]

In the clone wars we see the perfect example of a good villain in Count Doku!
He is powerful in physical combat, has mastered strong force abilities such as force lighting but he also has immense political power. His intelligence allows him to execute complicated but not convoluted political plots that often succeed despite our hero's best efforts and when things go south he himself shows up and drastically changed the balance of power, turning it into his favour.
His charm and elegant fighting style add a very cool superficial layer to all this.

But most importantly Doku has a point. He isn't a villain because he is evil, or because he got corrupted. He had good intentions and in pursuit of these he didn't fall to the dark side but choose to embrace it as a necessary evil
Note how he never got sith eyes or any of the other features of those who give in to the dark side. Doku has none of those because he remained in control and used the dark side as a means to an end. If not for Sidious he may well have ended up reforming the republic or forming a new and better one. Certainly bloodshed would have been part of this and the Jedi would not have approved but he didn't need them and he was right about the effects of corruption on the republic and just how broken the system was. Unlike Sidious however he intended not to exploit it for his own power but the reform/replace it with what he saw as a better system.
Only if a villains motives make sense. And perhaps in a way they are right/have at least a valid point (they can still be evil, Doku clearly is he constantly torchers and murders people and started a war with hundreds of millions of casualties) can they become truly good villains the audience enjoys seeing. That add to the story more then just being a counter weight to the Hero's

[lukediehl]

My thoughts: we need a Dooku series, following him from Padawan, through knighthood, all the way to his leaving the order. And don't let Kathleen Kennedy within 12 parsecs of it.

[ChurchNietzsche]

It would be an interesting "What If"

Dooku fights Yoda to a standstill... then realizes "He will never be in a better position to attack Palpatine" ... the Republic had already fallen (in all practicality) ... the Jedi were blind, and weak.

How much more could he -POSSIBLY- have learned from Palpatine ... how much did he really expect Palpatine to teach him?

How long before the axe?

[jw]

Dooku is my favorite sith. From everything to his fighting style, to his reason for going to the dark side, to his strategy. I just like him. He is a more complex character than sidious who is just pure evil (he is a politician after all) and doesn't really have any reason for going to the dark side other than he was just a bad person.

[Nearnae]

Little did Sidious know, Dooku was also a vampire and a wizard. He stood no chance

[katiepersons]

It would be interesting if Dooku had taken Maul for his apprentice and they both tried to overthrow Sidious together.

[granatmof]

While Yoda was grandmaster, grandmasters arent selected for the combat prowess, it's often their wisdom of the force, not their overall power level that is often the selection critea, though wisdom and power are often correlated. Anakin for example would never have become grand Master, whereas Obi-Wan probably had the potential.

Dooku though dedicated himself to preparing to fight the Sith, and was one of the preeminent Saber duelists in the order.

[seldomsane]

I think Dooku in his prime would certainly give Sidious a challenge. The Emperor would probably have to fall back onto his mastery of the force to take the win.

[SonofCurlyLox]

Imagine if instead of following the order to kill Ventress, Dooku instructed her to forfeit the battle and escape. And to find him a replacement so they can plot their attack on Sidious together. So she escapes to mother Talzin to get her a recruit for Dooku. Follow the same scenario with them discovering Savage and Maul, she can even bring along the two night sister warriors with lightsabers and invisibility and Dooku presented a full on assault against Sidious with these forces.

[KP-niie]

We really need more dooku prime duels in "tales of the jedi"

[EndlessDreamer]

If Dooku was able to find and cultivate a worthy apprentice to focus all of his teachings on we could have seen the reverse of the Maul/Oppress vs Sidious situation. In Dooku's position he could have undermined Sidious's entire operation to his and the separatists benefit. I would love to see a what if based on that premise.

[jamieSp]

Sidious was smart for fearing Dooku. He didn't get to where he was at by being stupid.

[everwonder]

How does Dooku fleeing his battle vs Yoda count as a standstill yet Yoda fleeing his battle with Palpatine means Yoda lost?

[gabrielbrennan]

I’d love to see what would happen if Anakin had refused to kill Dooku. How would the escape from the ship go? Would Dooku turn the CIS against Palpatine for real, or, worse yet - reveal him to the Jedi?

[hunterackerman]

I have to agree, Dooku being the better Swordsmen is probable, as it was something, as a Jedi, he perfected. If it came to blows, he would have the upper hand, until Sidious pulled out his force abilities. However, Dooku is shown to have very similar abilities, even using force lightning with one hand, while Sidious always used two, giving Dooku the ability to multitask both lightsaber combat and the force.

[melkor]

I think that Dooku was always a superior strategist when it came to balancing the light and dark in himself but if it came down to a fight with Sidious he would embrace more of the dark side to augment his aged prowess knowing that it would be a do or die moment possibly giving him just enough power coupled with his arguably superior light saber skill to maybe catch Sidious off guard ergo winning but not outright being more powerful