Is College Worth It?

During the Q&A portion of Dr Peterson's Anaheim, CA stop of his Beyond Order Tour, an audience member asked Jordan for advice for high school students who feel college is not for them.

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[ryannixon]

I like that, that “if not college do something just as if not more meaningful, difficult, or productive”

[JonBear]

When Jordan Peterson said if it's collage or nothing, it really resonated.
Let me chime in:
When it was time to go to University I didn't feel like studying anymore. But I didn't have any alternative plan. I had noticed peers that didn't go usually ended up just working some random job. So I went to University because I didn't have any alternative plan. But I decided to study something that interested me. Which turned out to be Japanese. I like video games and anime so Japanese was always on my radar.

The results of my actions is I ended up living in Japan for 4 years, received scholarships thanks to my hard work that covered my expenses. I then even did a masters degree in Japan, got a scholarship again, met my wife. Was it the best plan? Who knows, but it was a plan and it challenged me and helped me grow as an individual.

[Edgar-Friendly]

What I tell students is that no matter what they do, be an autodidact where you are always learning and improving at something to provide meaning and value.

[keven]

as am 19 yo, this advice is just gold for me honestly, i tried something different instead of college and got some similar insights on the topic

[abijahmaniaco]

I didn’t like high school and lacked encouragement, so I didn’t attend college initially, but it’s not like I had a better plan. The time went by quickly and when my high-school friend was approaching college graduation, I remember thinking, “I could have had a degree by now and that would have been better than the nothing I have to show for myself.” However, in six weeks from now I’ll be completing an MBA thanks to advice JBP offered in a short Prager-U clip that spoke to me.

[noachannel]

In my experience, there are 4 big mistakes people fall prey to. 1.) Going to college and picking a useless major because you like the classes. You need to enjoy your work but you're just gonna end up working a low-paying job that has nothing to do with your "passion" if you aren't slightly practical. 2.) Picking a major you hate just for the money or family pressures. 3.) Dropping out of college because you don't have any idea why you're there and you just want to party. 4.) Not gaining meaningful skills after high school, whether it's through college, the military, EMS, trade school, or work experience (through a job that can lead to better things). Ultimately, don't waste your time.

[learningwithlanden]

As a sophomore premed college student, I have arrived at the conclusion that college is not for students who want to (1) aimlessly hope college will instill in them some understanding of their career; (2) those who think college is a rite of passage to become an adult; ( 3) those who believe college is an “adventure” and an experience worth pursuing for its own sake because debt seems harmless with government loans; (4) those who have never taken an hour in high school to reflect on why college can benefit them; (5) those who were pressured by family/friends to go to college.
On the contrary, students who go into college with a plan and an understanding of why they should attend are equipped with some of the tools to utilize college to their advantage later in life.

[bms]

My wife was a college professor, and it's very true there are research professors and there are teaching professors. If you want to go where the teaching professors are go to a community college. The best advice I got growing up was when faced with many choices always chose the one that will give you the most options later in life.

[zatchiel]

I needed this advice when I was around 20, cooping myself up in my room full of distractions and comfort from everything but my own thoughts. Even being older it's helpful having the decision making explained so well. Thank you for this.

[lekasville]

"Is this not right for me? Or am I just useless and lazy?" the best Self evaluation question, ever!! 😂

[mmorizes]

This is really good advice. If you have to think about whether you want to go to college or not, you're probably exactly the kind of person who *needs* to. Those who don't need to go to college are the kind of people who would visit their local mechanic on the weekends for fun and plan on going to trade school, or those who spent much of their childhood in their parent's factory who are expected to eventually run the company, or those who have been contributing to online repositories since middle school and have the connections and experience and projects to justify starting their own business or pursuing alternative sources of education.

If you are considering whether or not to go to college (and also want to own a home, start a family, live without thinking about money, etc.), then there should be something that separates you dramatically from your other high school peers and lays out a clear alternative path. If the reason you're considering not going to college is because you don't want to take an algebra class ever again, you probably should.

[Brickwilliams]

I did a semester of college and the work was just too tedious and useless, I felt like I could’ve been pursuing more productive stuff

[Buddy]

I went to see him at the Fox Theater last night. He talks to the audience like he's talking to his friends. He invites you in almost in a way. He also spent 30 minutes answering a single question lol.

Edit: His son is very talented and his wife was a blessing to see. She seems to be happy and healthy.

[ForTheOmnissiah]

I really appreciate her just letting him speak and say what he wanted to say. He is often long-winded, and not a word he says is wasted time. He is always very informative and helpful to anyone he can be helpful to. Peterson you're a fantastic person and we're glad you exist.

[Shadow_Videos]

This is exactly what I tell the youth I mentor. Great advice

[sandhardn]

Thank you so much for being genuinely expressive at your work. You are a voice of reason and I appreciate that. I certainly do not agree with everything you think of but I fully support your right and effort to speak. I think therefore I am! Of course I would support you. Anyone genuine and less ignorant should! God bless you!

[pumpkin]

This was helpful, thank you. Tammy, you are so beautiful, I love seeing you on stage and hearing your soft lovely voice. 😊 You both inspire me.

[snotrohmitabc]

I wish I got this advice when I was 23 and depressed and identity-less as heck. Being useless and lazy 100% sucks the older you get.

[AndySaenz]

I hold 2 engineering degrees with a GPA above a 3.0 on both of them. I struggled to find a job in my field of study after my graduation. Right now, I’m only making $15.50/hr. So for me, it was not worth it. I can imagine millions of people are in similar predicaments as mine.

[slickszogee]

I turn 18 this year it's the beginning of my second year in college and to be honest I still have mixed feelings. I sat down and carefully chose a degree to pursue and equally good alternatives. Now I'm in school and I seem to have lost interest so I'm trying to ignite that spark again (for starters I now sit at the first three rows in any class I have to take and show up at least 30-45min before the lecture begins). I somewhat made new friends, more like they just showed up when I needed them. So it's time to TAKE ACTION. I don't believe education is a scam when done correctly.
Please watch who you hang out with or you'll eventually end up resentful of some people even though they may not necessarily have done bad things to you.