Brand New - The Rise And Fall

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Brand New - The Rise And Fall
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What is going on my mates!

Today we are going to talk about an alternative rock band from New York called Brand New | This video is called Brand New - The Rise And Fall because we will be taking a look at the story of how Jesse Lacey and the band became extremely controversial and even hated by some after the event in late 2017.

Brand New and Jesse Lacey have been a band for a long time.. They have a lot of genres that they could possibly be put into such as: pop punk, emo, alternative rock, indie rock, and many more that I’m sure you could place them into.

They’ve released outstanding albums like Your Favorite Weapon, Deja Entendu, The Devil And God Are Raging Inside Me, Daisy, and Science Fiction.

Your Favorite Weapon was pretty emo and pop punk, Deja Entendu was pretty emo, pop punk, and indie rock. The Devil And God Are Raging Inside Me was very emo and indie rock, Daisy was a lot of things, but pretty experimental overall compared to their previous material. Science Fiction is honestly so hard to describe, but it’s for sure dark and beautiful at the same time.

Brand New and Jesse Lacey played their final shows as a band in late 2017 before all of the controversy arose and as of now, they’ll never return, play another show, and we’ll more than likely never hear from them again.

Brand New was an extremely influential band, inspiring many with their songs like: Soco Amaretto Lime, The Quiet Things That No One Ever Knows, Jesus Christ, and many more.

Very sad that it had to end the way it did, but life goes on, you know?

Now, it’s time for the feature presentation you’l been waiting for: Brand New - The Rise And Fall

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Time Stamps: I Know This Is Long, Skip Around As You Please!

0:00 - 1:10 - How It Felt When The News Broke

1:10 - 2:22 - An Analogy For How Fast They Fell After The Articles Began Surfacing

2:22 - 6:11 - Formation, Getting Signed, And Releasing Your Favorite Weapon

6:11 - 8:56 - Deja Entendu Era

8:56 - 10:35 - The Devil And God Are Raging Inside Me Era

10:35 - 11:33 - Releasing Daisy

11:33 - 12:30 - Science Fiction And Their Inevitable End

12:30 - 14:47 - The End Begins

14:47 - 15:25 - What Now? / Closing Thoughts

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Time Stamps: I Know This Is Long, Skip Around As You Please!


0:00 - 1:10 - How It Felt When The News Broke


1:10 - 2:22 - An Analogy For How Fast They Fell After The Articles Began Surfacing


2:22 - 6:11 - Formation, Getting Signed, And Releasing Your Favorite Weapon


6:11 - 8:56 - Deja Entendu Era


8:56 - 10:35 - The Devil And God Are Raging Inside Me Era


10:35 - 11:33 - Releasing Daisy


11:33 - 12:30 - Science Fiction And Their Inevitable End


12:30 - 14:47 - The End Begins


14:47 - 15:25 - What Now? / Closing Thoughts

NateTheMateForever
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I actually listened to Brand New to cope with being sexually abused throughout my childhood. Somehow, when the news broke, I felt nothing. No devastation, no tears. Like I had sympathy for the victims, but the music felt no different to me. I don't know how or why, but that's just how it went down for me.

midna
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"it's hard to be the better man, when you forget your trying"

starlord
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why are u putting shoes on without socks

alexandrae
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Brand New? PSHHHH. Try growing up a Lostprophets fan

NatsTown
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I will never understand the whole “feeling betrayed” feeling. Name me one time Jesse has claimed a moral high ground. Everyone who feels like they’ve been betrayed, remember, YOU put Jesse in a position where you thought he should’ve been better. He has never done that. In fact, what makes this case so different and what makes the fans outrage so unjustified is precisely that Jesse has never pretended like he was someone better or someone good even. I remember not even knowing the name of any band member for the first years I’ve listened to them. They don’t put themselves on their artwork, their names aren’t even really highlighted in the booklets. Only after I went out of my way to look them up, did I find out what Jesse looks like. I listened to this man sing about his regrets, his self-hatred, and his inability to move on for years and that’s what I love so much about the music. And then the news break and suddenly everyone’s like “Jesse I thought you were better than this” and feeling betrayed. That’s your own fault. You put him on a pedestal that her never put himself on. He did quite the opposite honestly.

crocodilewani
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0/10, no Taking Back Sunday drama involved

stephanezhang
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Brand New got me through almost ALL of my tough times. It's almost as if every time I faced a hardship I fell back to them. Blasting their albums at all hours. They were like spiritual guides for me, allowing me to feel how I should.

It obviously is terrible what happened, however I'm more than sure hes changed. It was well over 10 years after the events happened that it all came out. He was in his early 20s, when it broke he was in his mid 30s.

Anecdotally, I'm 26 and I'm not even close to who I was when I was 20. Every aspect of my life is entirely different- for the better. Tack on 10 more years to that. Theres alot of room for change, then imagine being THAT drastically different. Gaining a wife. Kid. Family. Stability and becoming established. Finally settling down knowing all your efforts have paid losing it ALL because of something that happened literally 40% of your life ago.

It amazes me. I still love them. Always will.

randyweller
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"Jesus Christ" got me thru hard time. Ill always love Brand New. I don't even think about the issues. I just feel the art

pbdparkbiz
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If they came out with another album I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

thebadbandito
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Science fiction is such a perfect ending for them

jakemolisani
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I am absolutely disgusted that you put ur shoes on ur bed like a goddamn Disney character shame on u sir

Kirby
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Anyone who feels the need to burn their merch or records or anything, please send them to me i will pay lol

LadyMcShady
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Science Fiction is one of the best albums ever written. Nothing will change that. Just like Louis CK, Jessie's allegations were known by fans well before 2017; I went into this album knowing that. I believe Science Fiction is a reflection of Jessie's guilty conscience. Like a not-so-subtle Freudian slip, planted within nearly every lyric (e.g. "Lit Me Up" & "It Could Never Be Heaven"). It is--by far--the band's darkest, most honest record, which makes it a macabre masterpiece.

dgkzero
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People were shocked... Really? did they ever even listen to the lyrics?

gogogadgetboomstick
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As a victim of abuse myself, Brand New, specifically Jesse's writing, has gotten me through some of the toughest times of my life. Even now as a grown man I'll still go back to Deja, and The Devil, and God when I'm feeling down. Not many bands can harness the emotion and somehow put it into lyrics. I don't care what Jesse did or didn't do, but I do know this band may have saved my life a few times. So glad I got to see them live.

brickbanksk
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Bro. Seventy times Seven is about John Nolan. Not a "previous romantic partner".

snozzfaulkenberry
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I'm 33 now, and went to high school in the early 2000s. My friends and I were into the "pop punk" scene... Blink 182, Good Charlotte, Taking Back Sunday, New Found Glory; the typical emo stuff. I really loved these bands... but I just can't listen to them now. The songs about breakups and fights with friends seem so childish now that I'm a grown husband and father.

But Brand New is a different story. Deja Entendu felt like it opened my eyes to the weight of the world, and helped me mature. The songs had a weight and meaning that I just couldn't find on Dookie. They literally changed me.

Fast forward a few years to 2007 and I'm now living alone and uncertain about my future. I listened to The Devil and God... and again, I felt like it changed me as a person. I had never heard music about the personal relationship with God, and faith, that affected me so much. The pain and grief that comes with living separated from God, being a man of this fallen world, and dealing with travesties and tragedies. I can genuinely say it sparked a rejuvenation in my faith in Christ that I maintain to this day (and always will).

I know very little about the artists and their personal lives. All I know is, Brand New created two albums that helped me mature and grow into the man I am today. For that, I will always be thankful.

darrellcovello
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I remember when the news was out and Brand New crumbled. Everyone was shocked and appalled at what Jesse was accused of. I remember reading his statement and analyzing every bit of it. Not many saw it as a fit apology, and I understand why, yet at the same time I could see what he was trying to convey. Nobody is perfect, we all make mistakes big or small. His words, while not detailing what it was he did, did have a level of sincerity still, but at the time everyone was so shocked and angry that it didnt matter. I was more in defense at the time, and I still am. One cant change their past actions, nobody can. But he sought help after realizing his actions hurt not only those he directly affected, but those around him. He didnt ask for forgiveness, but rather stated that he needed to earn it. Now do I still listen to them? Hell yeah I do. Do I separate the artist from the art? Its impossible for me, especially after going back through the catalog for a deep listen. I knew going in that some clues were ringing with lyrics, and surely enough if you listen you can find them. The alleged incident occured roughly around the time of Deja Entendu, and notably on that record and further were a lot of cues with his writing that spoke on the issue without directly addressing it, as well the hurt and regret of his actions following. You can hear and feel it coming through, it comes from a dark place. Thats what has kept me from holding a resentment against him or the music. Brand New has had a strong impact on my life, especially at times when I've been too close to the ledge. Whatever truly happened in his past is in the past and cannot be changed, and I will never deny that it happened. I just know that as much of a crushing note it was that ended them, I will always love the art created and will continue to listen to it and inspire me in my own art.

Fight off your demons.

RaKooN
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Blown well out of proportion. People acting like he killed someone or something. I still listen to them as regularly as I ever did. They didn't need to nuke their career over this.

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