Going Over Tyrion I, A Game of Thrones

Rereading A Game of Thrones. Here's me going over Tyrion I, AGoT

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Game of Thrones is an American fantasy drama television series created for HBO by David Benioff and D. B. Weiss. Based on the fantasy novel series, A Song of Ice and Fire by George R.R. Martin. A Game of Thrones is one of the most successful television series to ever made and continues to captivate audiences all over the world. The series is set on the fictional continents of Westeros and Essos, and interweaves several plot lines with a large ensemble cast. The first narrative arc follows a civil war among several noble houses for the Iron Throne of the Seven Kingdoms; the second covers the attempts to reclaim the throne by the exiled last scion of the realm's deposed ruling dynasty; the third chronicles the rising threat of the impending winter and the legendary creatures and fierce peoples of the North.
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[KaritKtana]

Jaime being so appalled by the thought of being crippled is not just an insult to Tyrion, it's foreshadowing to Jaime's maiming too.

[Longshanks]

I think the point about Tyrion having a “terrible childhood” is meant to be contrasted with the fact that the immediate next line is him ordering a servant for a very specific breakfast, without so much as saying please, as if it’s the most natural thing in the world

A key aspect of Tyrion’s character is that he likes to pity himself and monologue to himself about how bitterly unfair his life is… but it’s not. He isn’t just highborn, he’s a *Lannister, * a scion of one of the richest families in the world with access to wealth and power that 99% of people don’t have, never mind dwarves. Was Jaime really the only person in his childhood who was nice to him? Or does he not take in the servants, maesters, septons, stableboys and so on who never failed to address him as “My Lord” because he is Tywin’s son and just takes that for granted?
Even if we remove his aunt and uncles, who by all accounts were more than pleasant to him, the point of these two lines to me is to point out how utterly delusional Tyrion is and how much he does not appreciate what he has. Much as he will soon chastise Jon for not giving the other Night’s Watch recruits a fair chance because Jon doesn’t appreciate how hard it is for them having never been trained at arms before, Tyrion is more than guilty of this himself - much like how he fails to wear his dwarfism “like armour.”
He focuses only on the negative experiences he’s had from his father and sister - not unjustifiably, they were/are equally unjustifiably horrible to him - without appreciating that he lives a life of comfort and luxury where he gets to read all the books he desires and travel the world because he is a member of the family he otherwise so resents. Otherwise, he’d have to bite his tongue and “know his place” like Penny had to do in a world unfair to her, without the wealth of Casterly Rock to fall back on.

Tyrion’s delusions about himself and how hard done by he is, or how Galaxy brained he thinks he is, are key parts of his character which this section shows perfectly.

[robbrown]

Dwarfism is inherited as well as a random mutation. Many forms of dwarfism are genetically dominant and hence the child of a dwarf and an average height person has a 50/50 chance to have dwarfism. Source: 4th generation dwarf.

[Longshanks]

I think it makes complete sense Tyrion is the one who has to tell Joffrey he’s got to offer his condolences to the Starks.

Robert doesn’t like talking to Joffrey at the best of times, likely hasn’t even thought of making sure that Joffrey has done so, and when added onto the fact that Robert is more than preoccupied with the return to King’s Landing, consoling Ned himself and getting drunk, I don’t think he would even consider he should order Joffrey to - much less want to interact with him in order to do so.
And Cersei? The idea of Cersei telling her precious, perfect angel child that he has to inconvenience himself even for a second to console other people, especially the Starks, is a concept too absurd to take seriously. Even for appearances sake, she would make her condolences on “Joffrey’s behalf.”
The only other people left who have some kind of influence over him are the Hound, who doesn’t care, and maybe Jaime - who equally doesn’t care. Everyone else would be too scared of him or unable to motivate him.

Tyrion is the only other person who can order Joffrey to do things and make him obey in the Royal camp at present. No one else would be listened to, and his parents don’t care enough to make him do so, so it falls to Tyrion.

[aprilmae]

The terrible long years of his CHILDHOOD. After he 'grows' up, Tyrion does get respect-he might not see it that way tho. When you get to his childhood, we learn that Tyrion is basically kept in the dungeons and sewers of casterly Rock until something changes and they let him out freely. In text though, Tyrion had a TERRIBLE childhood. He doesn't come out of Casterly until he is like 13-14 years old. Later, when Oberyn tells Tyrion about the first time he meets him, Tyrion cries-not because of the story. Because Tyrion knows Oberyn is telling him that he knows how much Tyrion really suffered at Casterly Rock because of his family.

[jaysemitchells]

It's crazy that this chapter is adapting almost 1 for 1 into the show, the dialogue is exactly lifted, so crazy!

[Mj_Jetson]

Always loved that exchange between Tyrion and Joffrey. Joffrey is a jerk, but everything Tyrion does escalates the situation. To be contrasted with the approach Sansa learns (Dontos at the nameday tourney) - but the key is to let go of her own ego, which Tyrion struggles with.

[chrisjones]

I'm gonna be here for each chapter, much appreciated Preston!

[summer-turtle]

A character in Tad Williams' Memory, Sorrow and Thorn has a hound-shaped helmet as well. But he's a straight-up villain and not really like Sandor IMO. But there's a raid on a monastery led by him which is kind of reminiscent on Rorge's raid on Saltpans.

[gingersmash]

Don’t stop doing these they’re the only reason I can go to sleep at night

[Shiftdougler]

Tyrion’s responses may seem harsh in this isolated passage, but after rereading the story the reader should reason that Tyrion knows what a cruel prick Joffrey is as he has seen the boy growing up.

[Mj_Jetson]

Is it odd how Tyrion knows Joffrey hasn't offered condolences to the Starks? He's been in the library all night, lost in his books. For all he knows, Joffrey just came back from seeing Bran. Its probably a safe assumption to make, but still...

[BlackHand]

Didn't know you started doing this. Good stuff. Looking forward to tyrion 3.

[manband]

Going back and rereading how people treat Joffrey, can anyone not look at the kid and see all the signs of a future school shooter?

The best thing Robert has done for him is ignore him and the worst is beat him within an inch of his life. Cersei coddles him so much, he might as well take a page from Sweetrobin's book and suckle at her twincest teat at the age of 13. Tyrion is arguably the best father figure he has and he beats him all of the time whenever Joffrey acts like the little hedgefund nepo baby he is. The Hound is his personal bodyguard and the guy exists to murder people and be bitter. And the kid himself is torturing animals as a small child.
Joffrey might be a headcase, but damn if every single person around him wasn't a complete failure in raising the next leader of Westeros.

As funny as it is to watch Jack Gleeson get smacked around for pretending to be an insufferable shit, not recognizing Tyrion as a horrible abusive uncle because he is a funny dude with a sad backstory and good old drunken whoremonger Robert Baratheon as a piss poor father is the first red flag when you try to figure out who is to blame for Joffrey Baratheon's character.

[Kobyashi]

Maybe in GoT souls exist, see wargs living in their animal, maybe when the brain of bran was not able to sustain its soul, it waited in the wolf until bran had recovered enough that the soul could migrate back. In this case Cersei is right the northern gods are cruel, they force the warging powers to awaken by pushing the soul to migrate to the wolf

[dyl-pyckle]

I like the idea of Tyrion ordering Joffrey to save face is a subtle clue that Tyrion is Tywin’s son before we even encounter Tywin and his obsession with perception.

[LucasSchimmel]

Joffrey not giving condolences isn't just a teenager being petulant, it's also about Joffrey not being able to read the room about courtly stuff. You don't expect much from a teenager, but from a prince, who will one day be the suzerain of the Starks, it's a massive faux pas. Tyrion beating him is uncalled, though.

[Sicktus]

Thanks for doing these! I've been wanting to do a reread for a while now, but struggled a bit getting into aGoT again, since the first chapters/book are the parts I've already read most often, this absolutely helps to get me started again. I might pick it up in a few chapters, or just follow along for aGoT, and start at Clash.

[conniesuper]

Be careful with those Valaryan scrolls. They're very dry...LIBRARY'S ON FIRE

[Mj_Jetson]

Question kinda related to Dany's wedding, in a few chapters...
When writing F&B, GRRM deliberately wrote Viserys II as a parallel to Viserys III, right? Both called Vizzy, both go into exile - except V2 brings his dragon egg, and V3 doesn't. Why not??? GRRM probably didn't think of this while writing AGoT, but would if be because of Summerhall? All the Targ eggs were destroyed then, so V3 never got one? Which makes me think of Rhaegar and Lyanna... with all the talk of dragons at Winterfell, and theories about what's in the crypts, maybe there was a dragon egg hidden at Winterfell, and Lyanna found it, and that partially explains Rhaegar's interest in her? The egg would then likely be at the Tower of Joy... so its either a) still there, beneath the cairns Ned made, b) at Starfall, c) Ned threw it overboard on the ship ride north, or d) its back in the crypt, in Lyanna's tomb. Does any of this work, or is it crazy tinfoil insanity?