Did The Lich WIN!?

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[stefansauvageonWhaATwist]

(This was written pre Fiona and Cake NO SPOILERS PLEASE, enjoy this relic of a comment):
He never said he ever won yet tho, just that he returns after each confrontation and failure. (Also he was originally one of the demons in the sea of monsters before time began-this part appears to be faulty memory)

[craigjonker]

The liches hardest line is “you may be strong child but I am beyond strength “

[patordeus]

The litch existed before nothingness, he was killed in a war between primordial creatures and returned as the comet

[-Mushroom_Kid-]

Cartoon Network knew what they were doing by getting Slade’s voice actor

[somedudewatchintv]

Update: recent Fionna and Cake episodes show that the Lich's wish wasn't truly reversed and he is confirmed to have won at least once. I still maintain that the evidence in the video doesn't suggest he won anymore than this. I'll leave the rest of my comment as is.

He didn't win, and his statement didn't imply he ever won, in fact it implied this was the first time he *might* win and the rest were straight losses.

[luigi]

Hits different after the new Fiona and Cake ep

[ambcd]

the lich is also just immortal in a larger sense of the word, he exists purely as a manifestation of a concept. he will always win because eventually the universe does decay and die in the adventure time universe. the lich, knowing much about how the universe works, with its lack of linear time. knows this

[wildspirewarrior]

This feels like the rivalry between Ganon and Link where they're destined to face each other over countless lifetimes and universes

[iang]

I also like how the Lich doesn't feel like a villain in the normal sense. He feels like a force, something that is MEANT to exist. And always will.

[kevinbahr]

He did “win” because mid show his intent was to use the heroes enchiridion to become eternal, and when prismo asks Jake and Finn to save an alternate reality where Finn had used the crown to stop the Nuke that IS the litch, parts of him enter the multidimensional portal. So yes he “wins” but the whole him being eternal is just a side effect of him being a litch. Quite literally UNDYING. From the start of the show when the nuke drops and forms the new age of Ooo, the litch was always eternal. Pieces of him and his essence are sealed into items and spells. But in the end he’s only one who follows Golb, who end the last episode will show themselves.

[maestrulgamer]

Jake pushing a hand into a portal= *multiversal scale erasure of life*

[StriderStryker]

As much as I love the Ice King being my favorite tragic villain, Lich is one of those villains that would keep me up at night and he might be in your walls.

[sinistralhydra]

In fantasy, a lich is a being who has overcome the concept of death. The Lich says he "always returns" because that's what a lich does. He's saying that he's a primordial natural force that can't simply be killed in a way that would matter.

[renegard]

We also have to remember that the Lich Hand came from the Farmworld timeline, and when his hand fell into the portal, it was copied into an infinite number of timelines. This means there's effectively two liches per timeline. In timelines where Sweet P doesn't exist, I could absolutely see a lich tag team wiping out life in that universe.

[CorundumDevil]

"Evil only has to win once."

[betoneiracromadarebaixada]

The lich is probability one of the most interesting "supreme evil" type vilain that i've ever seen, he is literally the personification of the inevitable end of everything. That entire speech he gave in the citadel is incredible, but the line "You are strong child, but I am beyond strength" is definitely my favorite, not just because it sounds good, but becuse of what it implies. The lich is not trying to say that he is stronger than finn, but that his strength really just don't matter. Finn, and life as a whole, can win billions of times, but he will always be there to try again, and he will eventually win. And he only needs to win one time. As he himself said, he is the end.

[yametekudasaii]

At least the show's creator did not make Finn's fate the same as Billy to potentially have another sequel of AT.

[santsthetoaster]

The thing with the Litch is that his main goal is to destroy all of life. So while he may have technically succeeded in a few realities/universes, I think we can assume he wouldn't be satisfied until all of life across the entire multiverse is destroyed

[carlcheeezer]

Bro really pulled an “I always come back”

[darioguzman]

It’s the opposite. He’s saying Finn has beat him soo many times across those timelines but the Lich always comes back. Like he’ll never quit until he succeeds