How Challenger 2 & Leopard 2 tanks can pack different punches for Ukraine

Challenger 2 and Leopard 2 tanks are both being donated to Ukraine by Western allies.

During Nato's Exercise Winter Camp in Estonia, Forces News found out more about the tanks and how they compare against one another.

We also found out about Challenger 2's 'secret weapon'!

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[jhfdhgvnbjm]

A big difference missed: They both use a 120mm main gun, but the challenger uses a rifled gun, the leopard is smooth bore.

[patterdale]

It's amazing how much a brew helps in difficult situations I've just retired from the British army after 30yrs it can definitely lift your spirits and make you go longer and harder the British armed forces nose this that's why all soldiers are equipped with a brew kit the brew kit is the first thing a soldier thinks off when packing his bergan and it's always put in last so you can get to it straight away like the vid says all our tanks have hot water in them so you can brew up anytime without getting out of the tank

[stupidburp]

Challenger 2 is slightly better for infantry support by destroying fortifications with HESH. Leopard 2 is slightly better for maneuver warfare on soft terrain from lower ground pressure. But both are capable tanks that can get the job done one way or another.

[deplorabled]

I guess we are about to find out if Challenger 2 can maintain its undefeated record in combat.

[qasimmir]

Incredibly capable machines.
FV4034 Challenger 2: Equipped with a Royal Ordnance rifled cannon and a 7.62mm coaxial chain gun. Fires high explosive squash-head (HESH) accurately at long range. It is an excellent general purpose munition that severely damages or destroys most targets it will hit. It’s depleted uranium armour-piercing fin-stabilised discarding-sabot (APFSDS) is a kinetic energy weapon with excellent range and adequate lethality against highly armoured targets like tanks.
49 rounds ammunition capacity.
Hydropneumatic for easy maintenance and a smooth level firing platform.
‘Dorchester’ composite armour is the toughest in the world and proven in battle.
Independent panoramic commander sight with ‘hunter killer’ capability.
Thermal observation and gunnery sight (TOGS) for gunner.
Exhaust smoke generator.
1200hp Perkins CV12 for adequate speed.
63-75tonnes
340 miles range
Tea equipped.☕️

Leopard 2A7: It is equipped with a Rheinmetall 120mm smoothbore cannon and an MG 7.62mm coaxial machine gun. Fires high explosive anti-tank (HEAT) with moderate range for its secondary ammunition for general purpose use with moderate lethality and APFSDS for armour targets with excellent lethality.
42 rounds ammunition capacity.
Torsion bar suspension.
Laminate armour with adequate protection.
Independent panoramic commander sight for hunter killer capability including thermal imaging for gunner and commander.
1500hp MTU diesel for excellent speed.
66.5tonnes.
170 mile average range.
No tea.

[arrjay]

I understand a Challenger 2 in Iraq threw a track and was stranded. The Iraqis fired something like 14 RPG rounds at the immobile tank to no effect. I can see the tank crew in there going, "one lump or two?"
It will be interesting to see them up against whatever the Russians throw at them, provided the Ukrainians use them properly.

[dc-ever]

The irony of interviewing a guy called Polley about putting the kettle on...😂

[VarvasNukka]

I cannot understand why other forces, especially in the north, haven't copied the brewing vessel. Having ready access to hot water for either drinks or for making food inside the vehicle is truly fantastic for not only morale but in keeping up combat capabilities. I can't tell you how many times in training we had to basically use lukewarm water to make quick rations and then carry on since it takes ages to boil water in -20 C weather, not to mention you're exposed to the elements all the while.

[heavyweight]

Eh, you cannot really compare tanks just from looking at the spec sheets. At first I doubt that anyone knows the "exact" penetration values for each round like DM63 or L27A1. Same goes for armor. No one, at least no one that is not in the military and working with these vehicles on a daily basis, knows "how thick" the armour actually is or how much protection in mm it provides against KE or Chemical rounds. Rifled guns (C2) or smoothbore gun (Leopard 2) have their ad- and disadvantages. It is kinda hard to compare that because it heavily depends on the circumstances. That goes for almost every other aspect of these tanks.

And actually it doesnt even matter. All that matters is that the tanks perform good on the battlefield, fullfill their mission and bring the crew back home safely. Challenger 2 already proofed that it is capable of doing so, Leopard 2 still has to achieve that. And I am German, so I am a bit biased.

[jamesmccallum]

Although normally quite an informative channel, this video was a complete waste of time.

[echelnx]

Adding a tea maker is probably the most British thing you can do to a tank.

[magnuslauglo]

Challenger 2 and Leopard 2 are in the same class and are broadly very similar to one another. They're both modern 21st Century main battle tanks in the 60 tonish weight class. They are bigger, better armed (certainly more accurate) and definitely better armored than the kinds of tanks Ukraine has already - and also than the Russian tanks they will be up against.

Compared to each other, the most important difference is surely that Leopard 2s are used by lots of countries and there are a lot more of them. So Leopard 2 individual units, spare parts, maintenance and ammunition will be far more plentiful.

[josephkush]

Leopards or challengers, they all burn the same

[Nubbe]

Leopard 2 does not have any brewing kit for tea, they just drink German beer.

[kester]

A tank with a kettle is the best. We all know wars are won by countries that drink tea during a battle.

[Vythz]

*We can bicker all we want about whether the British or the German tank is better but I think what is most important is that they are both better than the Russian’s tanks.*

[keithlillis]

Challenger 2 comes fully equipped with British Standard rifled tea bags 😀

[petesjk]

Never underestimate the power of the hot drink.

[harrisonnightingale]

How was it that I knew he was going to say that the boiler/ Kettle thing was the secret weapon of all thing🤣

[marklewis.wales]

Challenges secret weapon has got to be a kettle 🤣