The Strongest Argument for God | 🎙Podcast

There is an argument for God that works even if the universe is eternal, even if macroevolution is true, even if a person believes that science is the supreme source of knowledge. It’s an argument that is as old as Aristotle, yet few talk about it today. Tricia Scribner, co-editor of the new book Answering the Music Man joins Frank for a fascinating discussion that unpacks this ancient argument in modern terms. Frank and Tricia show that science wouldn’t even work unless the premises of this argument were true.

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[noelcurtis]

God bless you all, keep the truth of Gods word coming. 😊👍🏼☝🏼🙏🏼✊🏼❤️

[majinhiei]

I've been watching this for 5 minutes and she's hasn't moved an inch. The problem is, I don't have enough faith to believe that's just a photo.

[nathanfriendly]

All science is based on philosophy, but all truth is based on God

[danhudson]

I personally find the argument from reason the most convincing argument.

[greglaprade]

around 35:00 she encouraged people to turn off Twitter and THINK for awhile... Getting emotionally damaged Postmodern Amerika to think instead of feel?!? Impossible. That WOULD be a miracle.

[KenAmmi-Shalom]

Dan Barker co-founded the Freedom From Religion Foundation in a country premised upon the concept of freedom of religious expression. I am not one for genetic logical fallacies but, that does speak volumes about the level of his acumen.

[paulm]

Q. What supports a bridge?
Steel and concrete? No!
A. The information embedded in the structure.
Information is primary to our existence.
This fact makes the Primordial Soup hard to swallow.

[japexican]

“Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” 1 Corinthians‬ 15:1-4‬ KJV‬‬

1. I declare unto you the gospel (good news)
2. Wherein ye stand ( foundational doctrine)
3. By which ye are saved (not lost)
4. unless ye believed in vain ( there’s a way to falsely believe)

5. Christ died for our sins
6. was buried
7. rose again the third day

“In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, ”- Ephesians‬ 1:13‬ KJV

1. ye trusted
2. ye believed
3. ye were sealed

“And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.” Ephesians‬ 4:30‬ KJV‬‬

1. ye are sealed

“Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?” John‬ 11:25-26‬ KJV‬‬

1. he that believeth in me; though he were dead, yet shall he live

2. whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.” John‬ 6:47‬ KJV‬‬

1. he that believeth on me
2. hath everlasting life

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

1.he that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me
2. Hath everlasting life
3. Shall not come into condemnation
4. Is passed from death unto life

you’re not saved by what you do, you’re saved by what Christ has done for us, his sacrifice on the cross for the remission of sins so your sins are forgiven and his righteousness is imputed unto you

“And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:” Philippians‬ 3:9‬ KJV‬

“Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.” Romans‬ 3:22-26‬ KJV‬‬

do you truly believe in his words? Do you truly believe that he died for your sins to be forgiven? Do you truly believe you have passed from death unto life or will You believe what the world wants you to?

[cjames]

I have too much faith in Jesus to be a Catholic

[the-logic-of-the-rainbow]

I agree that teleology exists, but the hypothesis that intelligence determines the functioning of nature, is under some modes of interpretation, quite an obnoxious leap of faith(Especially if one values certainty). There exist an an arbitrary infinite number of conceivable mathematical descriptions which might describe the dimensions and functioning of nature, aswell as an enormous number of epistemically possible creatively distinct and bizarre intrinsic qualities and or states which might exist beyond our currently unknown metaphysical knowledge. Any of those infinite conceivably possible states might be responsible for the observed mixture of apparent intelligence, limits and freedoms of nature. Ascribing efficacy merely to the known quality of axiological value, despite the perhaps infinite extent of the unknown, requires further step-by-step in-depth logical argumentation (Beyond merely the superficial appearance of merely the surface of nature itself(Even with scientific descriptors)). My point is, the problem is potentially enormous when looking at it merely from first principles and everyday human observation, under-determination is not trivial at all. So please don't under-estimate the scale of complication that can be perceived when approaching the subject of intelligence and teleology in nature. I've got my own deductive theorems which satisfy me, but they're quite complex and involve lots of distinct inter-relating theorems to contextualize the phenomenon into something realistic.

[danhudson]

The Four Horseman of "New" Atheism:

Richard Dawkins

Sam Harris

Christopher Hitchens

Daniel Dennett

The Four Horseman of Christian Apologetics

William Lane Craig

John Lennox

Ravi Zacharias

Frank Turek

The Avengers of "New" Atheism:

Dan Barker

Matt Dillahunty

John W. Loftus

Aron Ra

Richard Carrier

Steven Pinker

PZ Meyers

Penn Jillette

Stephen Woodford("Rationality" Rules)

Drew McCoy(Genetically Modified Skeptic)

Alex O Connor(CosmicSkeptic)  

Lawrence Krauss


Avengers of Christian Apologetics:

David Wood

Tim Stratton

Alister McGrath

Nabeel Qureshi

John McCray (Whaddo you Meme)

Vocab Malone

Cameron Burtuzzi

Michael Jones(Inspiringphilosophy)

Greg Koukl

Tim Burnett

Ray Comfort.

Ken Ham (At another persons insistence)

[NewCreationInChrist]

Seek first the kingdom of God and His Righteousness, rejoice.
Proverbs 3:5-6
Proverbs 9:10

[KnighteMinistriez]

I've heard this argument before. Good points. I may try to get this book someday. I love this ministry. "Kind" is not the best word to describe the different species of plants and animals. "Kind" makes it sound too much like a young-earth creationism argument and those are false/debunked arguments. You want to use old-earth creationism arguments. Keep up the good work. God bless.

[estebansalinas]

God: Our story begins with a loving Father that created everything we see. Even you and me. He created us to have a relationship with Him, and to live forever with Him. He is a holy Father that sees all things, even what is in our hearts. (Genesis 1:27)
Sin: When sin came into the world it created a gap that separated us from God. No longer we were able to come in the presence of our Father. Because God can see everything, He can see the sin in our lives and the Bible tells us that the price for sin is death. (Romans 6:23) So, we were separated from our Father and destined to die.
Jesus: But God’s love for us was so much that He could not let us die. He gave up His most beloved treasure, Jesus to die for us instead. Jesus, The Son of God, became a man so that He can suffer and die and pay the price that we were supposed to pay. After 3 days, He rose from the dead, defeated sin and death and is now sitting right next to The Father. Jesus is the bridge that we need to cross to go to our Father. (Romans 5:8)
The Gift: The blood of Jesus that was spilled on the cross is the one that washes away our sins. That is a gift to us. That gift makes us clean, makes us righteous, forgiven and allows us to be able to have a close relationship with our Father and access everything that He has for us. This is the gift of salvation. It is up to us if we accept this gift or not. (Ephesians 2:8)
Believe: Nobody is forced to accept this gift. If you want it, you need to ask for it; you need to speak it with your mouth and you got to believe it in your heart. Once you do that, you will be saved and a new you will be born inside of you. The Spirit of God will come live on the inside of you and will help you with everything you need. Never again you will be alone, Jesus will be with you wherever you go. (Romans 10:9-10)
PRAYER OF SALVATION
Always be ready to lead people in the prayer of salvation. That is the best decision they are going to do and you have the privilege to show them how to do it. This is an honor, don’t take it for granted.


If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by confessing with your mouth that you are saved.
Romans 10: 9-10
“Father, I recognized that I am a sinner and I need a savior. I believe Jesus is your son, I believe He died for me and rose again. Jesus I open my heart to you and I accept you as my Lord and savior. I want to follow you and love you. Please fill me with your Holy Spirit and help me to be more like you. In Jesus’ Name I pray” Amen.

[JamesCouch]

If any atheist or scientist could create life in a lab, out of inorganic material, that could reproduce itself and pass along DNA, then I would be willing to listen to the theory that evolution might be possible.

[jeffphelps]

watch William Lane Craig debate cosmic skeptic. CS was out of his league

[briendoyle]

First of all, don't attempt to reverse the burden of evidence.
You make a positive claim and we don't believe it, so it's up to you to support your claim with evidence.

It is Not a logical concept to 'dis'-prove that which has not been proven, First!

Second, absence of evidence IS evidence of absence.
Furthermore, absence of evidence when your hypothesis claims that there should indeed be evidence is strong evidence of absence.

[JamesCouch]

Any honest atheist would have to admit that it is possible that God exists.

[Gericho]

Atheism is apparently true because of the theory of Darwinian Evolution.
God created man we read from the dust of the earth" not blindly nor by chance, not by some blind,   bottomup, unplanned, goal-less process, but out of love that would give intelligent life meaning, hope and destiny. And this all took place not in a lawless, lifeless chaotic world as Atheism would demand, but in a finite, awe-inspiring, rationally intelligible, abstract law-abiding universe. A universe that *Einstein could only describe as a miracle.* Only within theism do we have the necessary intellectual framework to explain miracles like existence from non existence in the finitude of past time. The claim that our finite material world was created out of nothing by a *law such as gravity* is about as farcical and unscientific a theory as an atheist scientist can get. At least Hawking concedes that his natural explanation accepts the evidence that everything came to be in the finite past, from nothing.

[jeffphelps]

According to Dan Barker if I owned slaves to survive it would be acceptable.