Why the Jedi Were Screwed (Even Without Order 66)

Even if Order 66 had been stopped the Jedi's public image was already in major trouble by the end of the Clone Wars.

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[grandadmiralthrawn]

To defeat an enemy, you must know them. Not simply their battle tactics. But their history, philosophy, art

[warriorwolf]

Execute order number 9, number 9 large, number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.

[yourfacejec]

It goes along with what Palpatine said, "All who have power are afraid to loose it, even the Jedi."

[brianrunyon]

Well done. Loved how the Clone Wars show gave so many characters a lot of interesting developments.

[dy]

"My attack on the Temple was an attack on what the Jedi have become. An army fighting for the Dark Side, fallen from the Light that we once held so dear. This Republic is failing! It's only a matter of time."

~ Barris Offee

[Kubinda]

The Jedi had fatal flaws and one of them was serving a corrupt and inefficient Republic. It all worked but the core was more and more rotten. But when Palpatine came around it was game over for the Jedi. Palpatine was incredible genius who placed traps within traps backed up by more traps. And the Clone Wars were an inescapable trap from which there was no escape for the Jedi.

[logangrimnar]

6:00 The largest faction in every conflict is the "leave me alone" faction.

[scoutdynamics]

It would appear that in the early days of the Republic, the Jedi were looked to in order to resolve disputes. It appears that is was the Republic who became too dependent upon elite "Warrior monks"

[ShawnHCorey]

The Jedi were doomed because they built their temple on a dark-side focus. It was this that clouded their vision and made it easy for them to go astray.

[rnp]

Jedi should have stayed as Ambassadors and Intermediators. They had no place in a conventional war.

[domromano]

Children’s show: more intricate political intrigue and subterfuge than most adult content

[kevinx]

There was also the developing PR about the one who appeared to be doing the selfless devotion to securing the Republic and had the backing of so many of the masses, which was Palpatine.

I would like to find out more about the knives used by Hunter and Wrecker in The Bad Batch. Those knives were strong enough to pry open sealed doors and yet finely edged to the point of slicing droids with seemingly ease. Also, why do they have what appear to be glowing segments in those blades?

[dustinmaxwell]

The Republic was the Jedi's main weakness.
The Sith did well to discover+ exploit that weakness.
The Jedi allowed many evils to go unchecked because pf the corrupted Republic.
They lost their way the day they agreed to serve the Republic.

[akumaking]

So early that Walt Disney still had control over the company

[c]

Palpatine wanted order, but his Master wanted to revel in pure chaos and that's what Jar Jar Binks did

[wafalme]

Why is Yoda holding Mace head like that?

[christophermills]

the Jedi were screwed the moment they got in bed with the Senate.

[vennb]

The Jedi were blinded by them thinking they could simultaneously have oversight and be invested i´n wars. This just has to go wrong!

[Mgauge]

Yoda said it best in the Revenge of the Sith novel: the Jedi lost the Clone Wars before they began. The Sith and their own dogmatic arrogance and blind allegiance to the Republic let them sleepwalk their way to near extinction.

[danmarusan]

The Jedi were screwed when Palpatine became chancelor. If they found out Sidious's true identity in episode 1 they could have stopped everything: No clone wars, no order 66, no galactic empire, no galactic civil war.

Sidious knew the Jedi's philosophy, their code and therefor their weaknesses. Through his political skills he could manipulate every single event to his advantage.

When the Jedi became generals in the clone wars he could portay them as war mongers, if they want to solve the clone wars diplomaticly he could portay them as cowards and if they refused to fight he could portay them as traitors.