Watch This Before Installing Debian 12!

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Chapters:

00:00 - Debian 12 is up to date?
01:03 - What is Debian?
01:54 - Stable is not always good
03:05 - The installation process
04:54 - The good, the bad, and the inbetween
06:53 - New, but ....
07:31 - Who Debian 12 is for ...

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#linux #debian12 #opensource

[belisariussmith]

I haven't used Debian for over 25 years, but after getting extremely tired of unstable environments, switching back to Debian feels like coming home.

[OM-bsof]

4:40, correction: Debian doesn't come with gimmicks, its Gnome that comes with the gimmicks. Debian uses Gnome as is (stock stock) whereas other distros tailor it

[alesandromarkes]

If Debian has the worst installation process you saw, I assume you never installed Arch.😂

[mikehosken]

Debian can be configured in so many different ways that you can use it, as you only reviewed it in it’s stable form, there is a testing branch and a unstable branch which is at the bleeding edge. Debian is so configurable that you can set it up just about anyway you need it to be.

[mitya]

Debian has backports repo, allowing you to install recent versions of many apps and packages. While still remaining pretty stable.

[SphereS]

With so many changes happening in the desktop space (GTK4, Plasma 6 coming soon, the switch to Wayland as a default etc) there will be bugs and breakage, and if you early adopt you will be affected by these first-hand. The whole point of a LTS distro is to guarantee a working environment that stays the same at least until it's safe to upgrade. The payback is that you accept to stay with the current bugs and missing features for a while. In the end, it's a choice: getting you things done or working as a beta tester for Gnome and Plasma.

[vldthdrgn]

When Debian says stable they are not referring to bugs. They are saying application ABIs will not change within the same release and that's why the packages are fixed for such a long time. It's to keep OS updates from breaking dependencies.

[scifino]

I've been using Debian Stable on my work desktop for years. Overall, a good experience. The servers, that I write software for, also run on Debian Stable, so using the same as my desktop makes testing easier and more reliable. Looking forward to the update.

[eloymelo]

I'm loving my Debian 12 setup. I've tried others, but I always come back to Debian <3

[alexandruc.]

I used Debian Testing for a few years, a long time ago. Still stable as hell for regular desktop use and fairly up to date packages. This was before GNOME 3/4 and plugins breaking after each new release of GNOME.

[OcteractSG]

“Stable” in the context of Debian refers to the operating system and most of its packages not changing over time except for security updates and bug fixes. Traditionally, this has been a big disadvantage for people because they miss out on desktop environment features and bug fixes, and many applications go unupdated on a stable distro. However, desktop environments are a lot more mature now, so the new feature’s won’t be missed as sharply, and Flatpaks are a way to get the newest applications rather than being stuck on older versions.

For people with very new hardware or who need many applications in their newest versions (maybe compile some programs themselves), Debian is a poor choice. However, if your hardware is not getting an upgrade in the near future, and the up-to-date packages released as Flatpaks do the job for you, then Debian is a good choice.

Alternatively, if you want Flatpak set up for you out of the box, ability to install non-free software out of the box, support for new hardware into the future, and a set of powerful graphical tools (not quite at the level of Yast, but still very cool and useful), you can wait for MX Linux 23. MX Linux is basically a better Debian Stable, and I strongly recommend it for users who are fine with Debian’s slow release cycle.

[sabriunal_]

GNOME Games was previously a part of the GNOME release set. However, it has been moved to the "others" section very recently and will not be a part of the release set after GNOME 45.

[marcinmionskowski]

We all have different needs. Some need stability, others need new features, all would like both.
Linux has made GREAT progress in the last few years (I've been using it since 2006, I know what it was like 10 years ago). Flatpak IMO really makes a difference in terms of keeping the software up-to-date. With this (flatpak) in mind, Debian 12 seems to be an EXCELLENT choice for workstations.

[krzesimirchrzastowicz]

I really don't know, why the feature "new" is always thought as an advantage for Linux users. It matters only, if you are just waiting for something eg. missing features of the applications you use, bug fixes etc. But if you like your system as it is now it is not an advantage at all. So if you install new Debian and you like it, you don't have any reason to move to Ubuntu, because it is "newer".
The "new" feature was important about 10 years ago, where the Linux desktop was still in construction and there were lot's of features well known from proprietary operating system, that were missing in Linux. But it is 2013 and now most Linux desktop environments give you all what you need.
Debian has also some derivatives that are more newbies friendly (MX-Linux, Sparky Linux, LMDE etc.) so telling the newcomers, that Ubuntu is one and the only alternative for pure Debian is absurd.

[kote]

Overall, Debian is one of my favorite distributions. But you are right, the average user will quickly get bored and want new features.
Speaking of stability and serious testing, I found a bug in the installer (in a pseudo-graphical version, perhaps it is still present), and I also once encountered a rather serious bug in the kernel (it was quickly fixed).
By the way, I like the pseudo-graphical installer. It may not look very elegant, but (ideally) you only have to see it once. There is a feature that MUST be in any installer in any distribution - ask which key combination to switch the keyboard layout (not only in the GUI, but in the entire system). For some reason, this childhood sore affects so many distributions ...

[max_im_um]

Why not use the testing or "unstable" versions. They are more stable than most distros whilst being kept up to date throughout. Debian Sid is pretty much a rolling release distribution

[iodreamify]

Debian is great if it has exactly what you want, you configure it once and you can be sure it'll be exactly like that for 5 years, nothing new added and nothing removed.

[insu_na]

I like using Debian Unstable (Debian sid) because it's rolling-release and is still easy to use for my colleagues who are used to Ubuntu

[MatthewsLife]

I use Debian 12 for both my home website server and jellyfin server I love how stable it is and I love how easy and fast it is to install if you don't need a desktop.

[POINTS]

I had Debian 10 on my 10 year old laptop that I use to play music on. I tried OpenSUSE on it recently. The problem with OpenSUSE is that it takes longer to start up and has a ton more updates (as it should) when compared to Debian. I think OpenSUSE has its place but for our old music playing laptops, Debian is a great fit. I plan on putting Debian 12 on that laptop now.