How China ALMOST Had Another Dynasty (And if it Happened)

When you think about Ancient China, the first thing that probably comes to your mind is its many Dynasties and Emperors, and the dynastic cycle that weaves it all together, as dynasties rise and fall. However, this China isn't actually all that ancient at all. In fact, Dynastic China only ceased to exist a little over a hundred years ago. But, after the fall of the Qing Dynasty, one man pushed for the revival of China's traditional dynastic system, and nearly succeeded. So, what if that changed? What if, in an alternate timeline, instead of a Republic, China had established a new Dynasty?

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Video Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:50 Background
7:59 Scenario

[isaiahslack]

During the Xinhai Revolution, there were numerous proposals advocating for the replacement of the Manchu-led Qing dynasty by a new dynasty of Han ethnicity.

Kong Lingyi (孔令貽), a 76th-generation descendant of Confucius and the Duke of Yansheng, was identified as a potential candidate for Chinese emperorship by Liang Qichao.

Meanwhile, gentry in Anhui and Hebei supported a restoration of the Ming dynasty under Zhu Yuxun (朱煜勳), the Marquis of Extended Grace.

Both suggestions failed to materialize.

[JustAnotherGuy-vxpo]

Scenario idea: What if Castile unified with Portugal and left Aragon to their own devices?

[llama]

bro, i was just investigating this guy, Yuan, to make a hoi4 mod, perfect timing

[AmazingJ]

That seems like a great scenario, but also I would probably have the Hongxian Emperor survive longer, possibly if he didn't catch uremia, making him live as far as 1939-1941, even doing all that Yuntan Emperor would, just my modification of of the scenario.

[ApostleOfDarkness]

If Teddy Roosevelt stayed in power, Kaiser Wilhelm II would've been able to form his German-American-Chinese Axis

[ChroniclesoftheWorldPodcast]

Ok great video, but the picture you used for Yuan Keding is a picture of Li Jing, a famous Chinese Xiangsheng (talk show) actor. No one will know but it is just very funny to see that because a random guy put it in a wiki post and now you are using it. Keep up!

[Ziafiz]

yesterday I was looking for a scenario like this. THANK YOU!!

[frostnova]

Here’s one, what if Spain invaded (and conquered) the Ming dynasty in 1570s. They had a plan to, but they decided against it due to various reasons.

[НиколайРоманов-лю]

China without a dynasty does not seem like real China at all 🙁

[Swissswoosher]

I’m pretty sure that, if Cixi had allowed reforms earlier, China would have continued to be a monarchy much longer, or even to this day.

[NordicSupremacist]

Scenario idea: What if the proposed Polish-Lithuanian-Ruthenian Commonwealth succeeded the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?

[PancakeBoy]

I'm not sure if you accept video ideas, but if you do, can you talk about what if chetniks liberated Yugoslavia?

[MAGNAVOX]

Scenario idea: what if Maximiliano I of mexico wins the second mexican-french war 1862-1867?

[manuvirajkhare]

Two scenarios of sorts:
1. What if the United Kingdom defeated the Tokugawa Shogunate and colonised Japan during the closing days of the Shogunate? And what if in response, the Russian Empire colonised Korea to counter Britain? And what if in response to that, the British annex the island of Formosa around the similar time as when the Japanese did in OTL?

2. What if British dominions/commonwealth countries such as Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa had monarchs installed (appointed from members of the House of Windsor) under a made up version of the Statute of Westminster 1931?

[joeyz]

Kung Te-Chen’s a descendant of Confucius was also offered the throne by the Japanese during their occupation of China. He declined as he grew up in the Republic. If the Japanese did somehow manage to succeed in their eastern plan or carried it out earlier it’s entirely possible that his grandson would now be the emperor of China.

[morsecode]

What would this dynasty be called? All the previous dynasties had a one-word title like “Qing” or “Han, ” so I’m just curious

[avus-kwf]

0:32 he was the reason why that dynasty fell

This was a coup

[familygash]

*VIDEO SUGGESTION:*
What if The Qing Dynasty never fell?

[hidefreek]

Also after Yuan Shikai's downfall.
A group of pro-Qing dynasty officers made a temporary comeback.
Then easily crushed by other Warlords. (Made a final return after the Dynasty become Imperial Japanese puppet state)

[johnmatthewcrane]

Enjoying your content. Glad I subscribed. If I may put in a request… I’ve often wondered what a Venetian Republic that survived into the 20th century would look like. Toyed with the idea myself, but I’d be interested in seeing your take on it. Keep making great content.