Who is Better - NESS or LUCAS

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[adamdonnelly]

Fun fact: Ness speaks with a Japanese accent, despite his game being the only one to release in the US. Lucas speaks with an American accent, despite his game never leaving Japan.

[Arceus]

just from this guide i can already see that lucas is grossly misunderstood

[nekow]

I’ll say this. Lucas is TERRIFYING in the right hands. He’s so underrated.

[ItsViiiiiiii]

As a ness main, thank you for not talking too long about pk fire, the move is very overrated and people don't seem to understand.

[blucas]

Lucas does not at ALL lack a good advantage. He has So many followups off of nair, which is a combo tool, up air and even fair.
Literally all his aerials can combo. He has one of the best combo games of the entire cast, much much better than ness's

[JoshuaSmith-hdbm]

Fun fact: in Brawl, There are 4 unused tracks of The Mother Series that were cut from the final game because of licencing issues:
1. Hippie Battle Theme
2. Smiles and Tears (Brawl)
3. Eight Melodies
4. Because I love You

[cobalt]

“Lucas lacks the offensive aerials to chase down opponents”

B R U H W H A T

[davidcruz]

Lucas and Ness are mi favorites
but Lucas has a special place in my heart
blucas if you are watching this, i love you

[stefann]

lucas has arguably the best mobility options if mastered. take a look at psi magnet and wavebouncing, his djc, and you can push yourself in the air with pk fire too if you struggle with landing. but overall ness is still better because you can't do multiple consecutive complicated inputs 100% of the time, especially online. lucas has more potential if you can consistently execute moves though

[range_jell]

Definitely Ness he has the "Okay" taunt

[phox]

"Up air can't combo"
Me: "Lucas can get 48% from 4 up airs which is true

[neyun]

lucas has the sauce, the sunflower field has loads of information if you want to main him 👀

[Darth_Carlino]

Fun fact originally onett was going to have it look like the invasion was starting and have a UFO hold the stage

[hellothere]

Lucas is floater than Ness. He doesn’t have a family weighing him down

[maxpower]

Fun facts: It's actually the fourth hit of dair that spikes. Who knew???

[Grimmsfate]

I feel like ness is more user friendly. Both have great potential, but ness has less end lag and moves a bit faster far as gameplay. Now Lucas has great potential, if played right, he can use his tether to mix up and his recovery is better, to a degree, then ness's.

[Bringingmoneyback]

I’ve played Ness three times two were classic mode runs

[igBird]

gotta be honest as a lucas main i would've appreciated this video a lot more from someone who had put more than maybe 2 hours of practice into the character

the basic important things that you missed to capitalize on lucas optimal playstyle:
advantage state is very oppressive but requires reading and capitalizing on enemies teching, which sour spot f-tilt, regular f-tilt, d-tilt (frame 3), jab (frame 2!!), pk fire all result in tech situations at low percents (lucas is phenomenal at punishing tech from anywhere on stage but doing so is not easy in the hands of a weaker player). playing around tech situations effectively lets lucas control the pace of the game and is good at putting your opponent into a panicked state and crumble under the pressure.

counter to this is lucas very weak disadvantage. he has a very slow air dodge and almost all rush down characters can react to a lucas trying to air-dodge out of a juggle. landing as lucas is difficult without mixing up BUT once reset to neutral lucas can camp/zone and mix effectively again.

lucas has a lot of pressure and kill confirms and amazing off-stage but is effectively bottle-necked by his disadvantage. he isn't too light and has a small hurtbox but he really suffers against rushdowns once they get in and keep him in a string of reading his landings. my best advice to playing lucas is to play the game around tech situations, ledge-trapping and edge-guarding, and mixing up between his zoning and camping and crossing up with nair or running up with jab or running up with shield into jab.

i would probably put him below ness in his current meta, but i dont think this video really does him justice

[shroomssbu]

I like how he sd's after the fair string lol

[ibleedpxl]

I‘m lucas main since he has been added. Before i played ness. Lucas moveset just fits my playstyle way better but i think if you compare the framedata ness should definitely have way more less punishable moves.
But still i‘m quite happy with lucas. It would be cool if they buff lucas rocket that move is kind of ridiculous the way it is now. And the hitbox of magnet and the effectiveness of the windbox. Then all thats left is the missing up throw into whatever and lucas would do way better