IS THE TORO SUPER RECYCLER 21564 THE BEST HOMEOWNER LAWN MOWER?

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IS THE TORO SUPER RECYCLER 21564 THE BEST HOMEOWNER LAWN MOWER? I recently bought a 2023 TORO SUPER RECYCLER 21564 with a 190CC ENGINE. It MULCHES, BAGS GRASS and SIDE DISCHARGES like a champ! In this video, I go over the FEATURES, CONSTRUCTION, and BUILD QUALITY of this mower. Did toro cut corners along the way and make some MISTAKES? LIKE & SUBSCRIBE!!!

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[ayrplanes]

The sputtering is easy to fix and has three causes. First, the spark plug boot may not be pushed all the way on. Second, it only comes with only enough oil to fill to the bottom of the acceptable oil fill zone on the dipstick. The engine has an oil level switch and won't run if too little oil is in it. Mow on a hill or hit a bump and the oil sloshes and the oil level switch momentarily turns off, killing the engine for a second. Just add more oil up to to the top of the hashed area on the dipstick. Finally, the factory Champion plugs just misfire. Take your spark plug out and replace it with correct E3 brand spark plug, (E3.20 on mine). Be sure to carefully set the spark gap to what the manual says (0.020" on mine). Regarding the slight variation in wheel height, the wheels have ball bearings and tighter tolerances. With plain bearing wheels there is more bearing play and that lets all wheels touch the floor, therefore you can't detect any wheel diameter difference. Not an issue at all when on grass as the grass is springy. Good mower. Much more nimble than the steel deck versions. I have long arms so the lower handle does not hit my gut. If you have short arms or a big gut, I would not recommend it.

[davidgreene]

I bought mine in 2023, I stored it for the winter, left the gas in. This Spring when I went to run it for a few mins to warm up the oil to change. It started up fine, then it started high revving, then the engine seized. I took the mower back to where I bought it. They said because the oil had metallic specs, they couldn’t do anything for me except sell me a new mower at their cost ($750 ish). I am glad I had an older Super Recycler (20038) as a back up. For the new one, the first couple of times it ran fine, no sputter but it did show up before the end of the season.

[BobbaLuche]

During the 1st mow with my brand new 190cc super recycler using the supplied toro oil it sputtered and complained like everybody says. Changed the oil to mobil 1 synthetic and an E3 plug and its a different mower! Just completed a 3rd mow and absolutely no sputtering. using reg 87 octane pump gas

In regards to the "3 wheel off balance" issue, if you note in the manual, to achieve a particular mow height, the front wheels will have a different notch than the rear wheels. I followed these directions and all 4 wheels are firmly in contact with my garage floor. Good luck with this very picky mower!

[mikecraig]

Proud owner of a 21564 as of 4 hours ago thanks to your videos. Just like you warned. One front wheel spinning freely while the other three are resting on the garage floor. Also, the spark plug boot wasn't even close to being seated on the plug. How can this consistently be a problem before being boxed and shipped out? I got my mower preassembled from a very respected dealer and they obviously didn't catch the plug boot issue. Thanks to your videos I knew exactly what I was getting into and what to look for and address. I'm pretty excited to mow after taking it for a dry run around the driveway. Personal Pace worked very well and disengaged when it was supposed to when backing up. Keep up the videos

[Josh-kmvc]

After 11 years I had it with my Husqvarna. Engine still runs well but for the last 2 years I’ve been dealing with a hole where the wheel fits the deck causing the deck to drop no matter the amount of JB weld products. I spent some time trying to figure out if I wanted to go with the new Toro Super Recycler 21565 or the Honda HRX217VKA. Ultimately I chose the Toro mainly due to the aluminum deck and Honda leaving the outdoor equipment scene. Hopefully I made the right call. They sure are expensive these days.

[conradaleshire]

I have the 2021 190cc, mine came with side discharge but it's on the side, not from the back. Seems pretty unsafe that it's coming from the rear so close to the legs.

Down south we got some thick St. Augustine and even after 3-4 weeks of not mowing with heavy rain and fertilizer, the 190cc cuts through it like butter.

I don't have the "vortex" but I still love the machine. The Engine surges, but I put High octane gas in it and it doesn't sputter. Seems to sputter on hotter days as well.

Great vid.

[keithg]

Another great video Jb! I have the exact same mower and have been using it since March, and have no sputtering... 1 helpful suggestion for those that own it, to help make the plastic carburetor last longer, put a fuel shut off valve on it and shut the fuel off when you're done mowing for the day and let the mower run till it runs out the fuel in the carb. Then pull the starter rope a few times to purge the carb.

[justfishing]

I have a similar model I bought new last July. About 2 months ago, the engine would stall out like it is running out of gas.(even though the tank is almost full). Brought it to the Toro service center and after having it for 3 weeks, they said they cleaned the carb. After paying $110.00 for that, got it home and did the same thing, stall out. Brought it back to the service center almost a month ago and still waiting to get it back. From what I read on Toro owner's group blog, sounds like the coil went bad. Anxious to get it back and see how it runs.

[normbittner]

I have the 190cc B&S on my 2008 Toro 20092 model- this year is it's 16th season and never had sputtering. I'm getting a new one and giving it to my son for his new house. I've changes the oil maybe twice, otherwise have always just topped off, maybe 2 air filters and until the 15th season, always used 87 octane & 10% ethanol fuel- with no issues- starts fast always. I'm either lucky or it's rock solid!

[RobertLawrentz]

I’ve mowed with this exact mower for 2 seasons, one thing I wanna mention the wheel axles are plastic. If you mow on a long incline ( like a river bank) I have split out the wheels twice. The fix: put radiator clamps, that, when tightened around plastic axles, will hold the split wheels axles permanently so you can mow on inclines without gear’s slipping.
The wheels should’ve had metal sleeves around them in 1st place. I guess toro wants to sale more parts!😂

[timraber]

I looked at the new Roybi $800 all wheel drive yesterday at Home Depot. it came with two batteries. Also you get either a free trimmer or blower with another two batteries. I’m still on the fence on battery mowers. My six year old Toro is still working, but needs a few things I give it a workout each week. I saving my money this summer for a replacement.

[jadamec]

I've got a "20" Super Recycler. Two big issues with it; #1 Sprays out a ton of clippings on the Left side, getting packed down by the rear wheel. #2 when pulling backwards, no mulch what so ever. Cut 2", you've got 2" trimmings left on the lawn has you pull the mower back. Was wondering if the front vent helps with that ? Both the Dealer I got it from and Toro totally deny this problem exists.

[fdarkstar]

nice machine all in people dump on Craftsman products....I am on my 3rd season with my Craftsman M270 mower....great machine....has not given me a lick of too has electric start utilizing craftsmans v20 battery it starts just as fast....I love the battery will last all season without needing charged.

[brodygoalie]

Just got my toro super recycler 21 inch mower back from a small engine shop I use. It's just me $175.00. the self propelled system was not working. They told me it was the hub that was completely frozen to the shaft. That is the verbiage they used. They had to cut off and heat? Whatever that means? Please explain. Much appreciated.

[johnwinters]

I purchased the same mower and found that it sputtered and surged after 15-20 minutes of mowing. The dealer replaced the carb at the recommendation of Briggs, but it did not solve the problem. The dealer finally found that the gas cap was not venting properly and that solved the problem. Hope this helps someone!

UPDATE:
Unfortunately, after mowing yesterday I had the same sputtering problem. After mowing for a few minutes the engine started to miss, and then after continuing to mow for 20 minutes the sputtering started all over. So far, new carb, new vented gas cap and new spark plug have not fixed the problem. Back to the dealer tomorrow!

2nd UPDATE
On the third trip to the dealer, Briggs had them change the coil and that seems to have solved the problem. Hope this helps someone.

[vinylmaven]

Your lucky yours came out of the box and RUNS! I traded in my 2 year 3 month old Toro "Recycler" after 4 visits to a lawn equiptment sales/service shop to be looked at (the last 2 were to a Toro dealer) . The first season was ok, the rest of the time was awful! Sputtering and not starting after taking a short break and trying to restart it, I was pushing in the plug boot just in case. After trading it in I bought the Toro Super Recycler #21564 for $900.00!! I took it home and noticed 2 drops of oil right under and behind the muffler, I thought it was because it was just preped. The next morning I started it, after"3" pushes on the electric start, it started but smoked like crazy then setteled down. But it was surging/sputtering then I looked as I started mowing and I was able to look over the engine in front and saw a few more drops of oil, I went a little more and saw a little trickle of oil I stopped immediately, I just couldn't believe my bad luck a brand new mower! I was beyond mad. I called the dealer and had them pick it up, the driver tried to start it and after 5 pushes on the electric start he tried to pull started it, NO luck. I don't know what to do I think I deserve another new mower but I don't think it will happen, any advise??

[gpalmerify]

Agree on all your observations completely. Always a big fan of spiral shaped decks for vacuum action on clippings to get multiple chops on them as they're suspended. That requires a powerful engine and someone who doesn't try to mulch a wet lawn. Snapper did that really well. Briggs marketing an engine that never needs an oil change is just a ploy to generate parts sales IMO.

[StuartNC]

I got my 21564 online from Home Depot. It was shipped to me from Toro in El Paso. I noticed the engine build date is September 2021. Is that typical? Seems odd that it’s been sitting around for a couple years. I’m still debating returning it before 30 days runs out. The engine does not like bumps or slopes. If I’m careful not to fill the tank past about 3/4 it behaves better. I called Toro to ask if any service bulletins and they referred me to a dealer. I called the local dealer and they would not tell me if any bulletins unless I bring it in and pay $42 diagnostic fee!

[LL-mtnz]

I have the 60v version of your mower and everything you said also applies to it. I will say its mulching capability is superb. We have had a lot of rain and even in damp conditions, this mower mulches flawlessly.