Microsoft FINALLY killed it

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Visual Studio is a loaded term. Here's a breakdown of the Visual Studios that are still alive.

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Visual Studio's relationship with Visual Studio Code is like Java's relationship with JavaScript

troyroa
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I sometimes wonder if the teams at Microsoft, who developed Visual Studio and Visual Studio Code, revel in the joy of knowing that the linguistic ambiguity of those products will continue to confuse people till the end of time. I take a hard guess and say yes.

stefanmilicevic
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I might be the only person who liked Visual Studio for Mac. I was hoping one day it would catch up to full functionality of MS VS. Every major release got a little better. Kinda bummed about this!

OneTakeSunday
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Visual Studio is an IDE with the Microsoft C/C++/MASM compiler. VSCode is a text editor. The MS compiler without the IDE can be installed separately, it's called the Microsoft Platform SDK at the moment. In the past, MS distributed the compiler-only version of Visual Studio as Microsoft Windows Build Tools. VSCode is an Electron JS app. Whereas, Visual Studio is mostly written in C, .NET, Windows SDK, and partly C++/ MFC, as far as I'm aware.

EDIT: The names look somewhat similar.

PinakiGuptaAppu
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The new C# Dev Kit Extension for VS Code is meant to bring a complete C# dev environment, and it does a descent job. You can view solutions and do other stuff in a way similar to the traditional IDEs.

marna_li
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My problem with Visual Studio is speed. It takes a long time to start, long to build, and seems to stagger along for most of the projects I've worked with. VSC is much faster, and I only install the extensions I actually need. I've managed to learn a keyboard shortcut for pretty much everything, and its difficult to move away from that.

My main use cases for VS are windows forms (yes, it still exists) and MAUI Blazor Hybrids.

mytho
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I'm still an early-stage developer and appreciate the step-by-step mechanics of vs_code. That way I can explore each tool on its own and get familiar with its functions instead of navigating through an "overloaded" IDE. But I guess one day that will change and I will use the "ultimate toolset in the big old plastic suitcase".

timtaler
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Does this mean Visual Studio 2022 (or a future release) will be available for Mac? Or has Microsoft just admitted defeat for that demographic to Rider?

hamza-m
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Alex, I've always been confused; What's the difference between Visual Studio vs VS Code?

Please answer ASAP, sir 🙏🏼

LukeBarousse
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I don’t use Microsoft products and often I have no idea what this guy is talking about, but I LOVE watching his videos, I often ask myself why :)

dmitrymatora
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Visual Studio was one of the reasons why I loved C# so much.

MafJora
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I never met a single person who confused Visual Studio with VS Code

ihopethiscommentisntabusiv
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This reminds me of when I was about to graduate with an actuarial science degree, and some people advised me to learn Visual Basic. So I got a library book on the topic and was learning along - I knew BASIC from using it on an apple //e as a kid, but had never used it in a context where I could operate a GUI (all of my programming experience had been strictly via text interfaces). I couldn't work out what it had to do with Actuarial Science, though. After I got rather far along, I finally worked out that I was supposed to be learning Visual Basic as a scripting language for Excel, which was completely different from what I had been teaching myself.

CamdenBloke
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The main drawback of Visual Studio 2022+ is that you need Windows to run it. And yes this is a drawback for me. .NET is not Windows-only anymore. We hosted our .NET backend on a Linux server for years now. So developing it out of Windows is essential. We make sure that what we develop does not depend on something in Windows.
Plus I don’t have to pay all that money to rund Windows cohesively within macOS.
This is why I still prefer VS Code for everything, except iOS development; and I pick up just what I need.

MostafaAhmedAhmed
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But sometimes a specific function doesn't exists or an infuriating choice was made for Visual Studio. But the culture of vscode around extension makes that you will most likely find an extension fixing your problem, while it's not often the case with Visual Studio.
It's like if the big crate of tools include a broken one or is missing a specific screwdriver for an exotic end bit, you can have it if you build your own toolset

belgarathlesorcier
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If MAUI is as great as what MS claimed to be on cross platforms development, then their Visual Studio 2022/23 should build completely in MAUI. So VS for Mac can still live on

ericy
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Visual Studio = IDE, Visual Studio Code = Text Editor

OM-bsof
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I would love to run visual studio 2022 in parallels on my M1 Max MacBook Pro…in fact I did the other day. I do mobile development. The main reason I bought a Mac back in the day was to do xamarin for iOS. So the main reason I have been a fan of visual studio 2022 for Mac is because of what happened the other day. I loaded up parallels with windows 11 for arm, installed visual studio 2022 enterprise because the company I work for bought me a license. I then loaded up my latest xamarin project for android / iOS and worked on it a little bit. I noticed 2 things right away: first, it wasn’t very fast. Things ran slowly. Windows moved slowly. It took longer to build than visual studio 2022 for Mac. The second is that I heard something I hardly every here on my M1 Max Mac….the fan was going full blast. Nuf said…

tonypitman
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Why, its a great product. VS-Code doesnt have the same feature set.

An-Orange-Fox
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The people who say "why use VS 2022 when there is VS Code" is the very people who don't use THE Visual Studio. Gen Z I suppose? My first VS was VS 6.

hardi.stones