Why the Force Itself HATED Abeloth [The Anti Force] - Star Wars Explained

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[grandinquizitor]

She is intriguing. So, Anakin is indeed the "Chosen One" who will bring balance to the Force as he will be the one to battle Abeloth; this is why Anakin exists in the world between worlds or will Luke fight her?

[xievgaming]

Son - Dark
Daughter - Light
Father - Order
Mother - Chaos

[wyoboy]

This is what makes Abeloth being trapped on Peridea so intriguing. The Dathomiri Witches originated there, so essentially they're worshipping and getting their power from a goddess, but as this goddess wakes up and her truly malevolent intentions become apparent, even the Witches wish to flee from her.

[shadowfoxx]

There are some interesting parallels between Anakin and Abeloth. She became what she is, because she didn't want to leave her family (father, daughter, son) and Anakin fell because he was scared of losing Padmé and the babies (spouse, daughter and son). So he would be able to understand that part of her, the fear of loss of a loved one. Or several loved ones.
He found redemption and balance thanks to his son. Maybe Abeloth will find peace (or her end) thanks to her daughter in the form of Ahsoka?
Will the SW-writers go that deep into the metaphysical and Force philosophy?

[InfiniteNaos]

Abeloth would definitely be a living abomination of the force similar to Darth Nihilus and Darth Sion, but on a much grander scale.

Just like how Yaujta’s view Praetorians as abominations to their own kind, even going so far as to not claim their skulls and spines as trophies. The force definitely see something such as Abeloth to be a disgust rather than just another entity or individual that uses the force.

Since the force itself didn’t create Abeloth, she created herself.

I also recognize why the force would reject her just like how the force lashed out against Plagueis when he tried to use the force in ways he was never meant to do. Almost creating and restoring lives whenever he saw fit which is something the force fought against until creating the Chosen One.

[abdelali]

I always thought that Qui-Gon as a believer of the living force, wouldn't see the chosen one as just a tool for the Jedi to have control over the force, but as someone who will really bring the force at balance, and seeing how Anaking not only learned to become one with the force but to freely roam and manipulate the world between worlds, that I realize, his fate as the chosen one goes beyond defeating Palpatine, but defeat a creature that even The Force itself despises and that leeches from it as a parasite, it would be really awesome to see the writers going this deep tbh

[richietribe]

Time to play rock, paper scissors Star Wars edition!
The force hates Abeloth. Kreia hates the force. And Abeloth hates Kreia!

[SolarinDay]

I often like to compare The Force to the Emotional Spectrum of the Green Lantern verse. What many call the "Dark Side" is the Red, Orange, and Yellow colors of it, with the light being the Green, Blue, Indigo, and Violet. Since the light is comprised of 4/7 of the Spectrum, that is why it is stronger than the Dark.

Looking at it this way, the True Dark Side would be the nothingness that was Necron. The space between molecules, in the Star Wars verse, Abeloth would be that, true darkness, and oblivion. That's just my 2 cents.

[adamg]

This was a exceptionally well done video !!! Keep u the great work !!!

[aodhhanswtor]

Force chaos... she's nothing but chaos. Since it now seems obvious Disney is going to use Legends content (which is a good thing), what is difficult is to see how they adapt it to their story. The Abeloth story is one where they likely won't use everything from Legends, but rater an abbreviated form--so it will be interesting to see how they portray her. Using her as an anti-force of sorts to spread her chaos (which in this case, complete unbalance along with unnatural use of the force) throughout the galaxy is a mind bending story arc. The Stupendous Wave is once again correct in pointing this all out.

[LordWyatt]

Despite all their power, Nihilis and Valkorian would be easily overwhelmed by Abeloth.

[makinamaster]

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[ArtByAhri]

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[richv]

Chaos is needed to shift the balance between light and dark. The force may not like it, but it knows that chaos is needed.

[thorshammer]

If the Force hates Abeloth so much it would especially abhorred the Forces of Chaos from Warhammer 40k. Both the Light and Dark sides would abhore Chaos so much it would do everything it can to stop the Warp from having any foothold in their galaxy at every opportunity to make certain they would never exist in the material world.


Even for the likes of the Father of Shadows from that one tale I heard of the Chaos gods are too unrestrained and too abomniable to ever be controlled. It would be better for the Force to completely seal the Warp off and try to make sure to weaken the Chaos's hold over it from afar.

[thalmoragent]

Well that's assuming they're willing to go that route. (And if Mortis still exists in the universe or if it de-materialized after the Mortis Arc

Keep in mind, they replaced Darth Cadus with Kylo Ren, and they've completely upended Luke's Jedi Order and the position of Grand Master, etc. Disney isn't above rewriting or just straight up ignoring previously well established Lore.

So, is it truly tough to believe they're not gonna be willing to delve into Abeloth? Is Disney ready for that? Does Filoni have a feasible way to handle her? I mean, Luke is still relatively young and learning, we haven't seen him do much in his prime cause they're already working around the Sequel Trilogy BS, and he doesn't have much of an Order at the moment.

The powerful Jedi and Sith of the EU/Legends timeline that took her down don't exist here. Unless you think Luke, Cal, Ahsoka, Shin, Ezra, and a handful of Great mother Nightsisters will be enough to take down THE Abeloth? They really can't handle anything more than a single, regular Celestial, much less one who's strong enough to require the Son and Daughter to regularly lock her away. Maybe she's on the Father's level, but that hardly helps the case here, they'd still be no match.

At best, they face a corrupted Celestial, one on the power level of the Son/Daughter, and are barely able to seal them away, but then it makes you wonder... why did the Mortis Gods have to potentially take the Dathomiri from Peridia to keep them safe from a single Celestial they'd have no problem tag teaming with relative ease?

I dunno man, there's a lot to consider here, so, Abeloth or not, I'd say this a lot to take in on its own. But if it's THE Abeloth? Either she's been/going to be nerfed to hell, or it'll be someone weaker but for some reason the Mortis Gods couldn't handle it... maybe they didn't wanna kill one of their own Celestial kin so they locked them away, but knew they'd use the Dark Side to corrupt who they could? And since Nightsisters are fancy/esoteric force users, they'd be susceptible to this being, and they helped them to leave Peridia for that reason?

Just saying, if it's Abeloth, the current Canon doesn't have enough OP hitters to handle her. Took the combined might of Jedi and Sith orders to handle her in Legends, and that was barely enough to lock her away again. With the force users we have NOW? Lmao, they're not stopping her

[tommymccann]

Does Thrawn know about Abeloth? Is that why he reached out to Ashoka? At the end it seems like she agrees with him, repeating that she is where she needs to be. It would be very Thrawn like to manipulate his enemy into a place where they would do the most good.

[Gor]

This is very explanation. There's no light without dark, no high tide without low tide. Light and dark work together, exist together. They compliment each other, they hold universe together. This is perfect explanation. I hope the Force finds new guardians, like Son and Daughter. I don't think Baylan is strong enough for this. May the Force be with you too😊

[Frozone]

The way you describe Abeloth is strangely similar to how most fans describe Kathleen Kennedy.

[dimitrilitovsk]

I honestly was hoping with them making abeloth canon that maybe she corrupted kreia and thats why she wanted to kill the force. I know this isnt the case and she isn't canon as of now but it would he an interesting angle to take a beloved character in an original direction with enough kept to not offend kreia lovers