Holbein Pencils And A Response To Colorfully Optimistic

Today I am giving a response to the Lightfast issues that have been brought up by Lisa Lachri and Artist Jane Bush while responding to Kori from Colorfully Optimistic

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Pencils Holbein

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My Top 10 Favorite Colored Pencil List In No Particular Order :

1. Deli Pencils Sold By Star-Joy. These pencils are similar to Polychromos

3. Indra Pastel Colored Pencils. This is a beautiful square pencil set.

4. MarkArt (Nyomi)120 Pencils, Markart 72 When you get there you choose the amount of pencils from the drop down menu

6. 4: Amazon Basics : The colors match Prismacolor pencils exactly, but at a budget price. They are not as creamy, but are a close second.

7: Art n Fly Pencils . This set as some unique colors Very smooth and creamy

8. Prismacolor 150 : The prices go up and down frequently, but this is the best link. I have gotten 4 sets from this dealer.

Colleen Colored Pencils 72 set

Colleen Colored Pencils 120 set

Colleen Colored Pencils 60 Neon

Here is a list of other products that I use and always asked for the recomendation

I have been using the Tihoo Pencil Sharpener for 4 years. It is my favorite one

Greyscale and Value Finder, This will be needed for the Comprehensive Blending Class.

This is the specific color wheel you need to get. There are ones that are similar but do not do what this one does. This is needed for the Comprehensive Blending 2 Class

Printing Paper Neenah Exact Vellum Bristol

DecoColor Gold Pen

Wink Of Stellar

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Not all budget pencils are created equally. Here is a partial list of the ones that have a better quality and I recommend. Never assume that a budget pencil is lightfast. They are not for professional use, such as selling your art. They are excellent for students and people who are coloring in books.
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[ColorfullyOptimistic]

Hi Lori! Lovely response and what I appreciate the most is that even though you love Holbeins and have disagreements you were open to hearing what I had to say. Like you said, holbein fans will fight haha, but you possess that quality to which you're open to hearing other opinions and that's what makes me respect you so much. Truly. You're always so honest and thorough with everything you do. Holbeins absolutely are a unique pencil and boy do those bad boys love their layers (if only I could give the layering love they need) . I agree they're definitely not for coloring (especially because most coloring books don't have the tooth this pencil needs to do what it can do). I also appreciate your insight on the lightfast. I feel that if they beat around the bush with one artist but then give another testing data they've established so much mistrust that a professional can't use these in commission work without always wondering if it will hold up. I also admire that you've done your own testing. Honestly, I don't doubt they're genuine with their rating but they're definitely not helping their case when they're so inconsistent with their message. I'm equally thrilled I'm not the only one that refuses to use a knife on that soft white haha! For my one page with super slick paper and black, I honestly cannot identify the issue. You might be right that it was wax bloom. Maybe I'll do a test on one of those pages and send it to you to show you how they start to crumble and streak because honestly I'd love to know what they were doing on that paper (it's a mystery I can't solve). I still plan to use my Holbeins which I know baffles people but I can't be defeated by a pencil 🤣 that said it will be more in my art and less in my coloring because I just think that's where they need to go. You are truly awesome and while we don't share the love of Holbeins together we both love our prismas and are open to what's out there. That's why I admire you woman. I actually can't wait for your pencils to come out myself! Thank you Lori. Again, you're amazing.

[BamaBells]

Great review. Although in reference to Johanna Basford books I must say Prismas and Polys have worked great for me. But what I see others do with all kinds of budget friendly Pencilss nothing short of amazing. My 150 set of Prismacolors is my go to. But curiosity got me and I got 23 or 24 individual Holbein Pencils. They are nice but not 3.95 each nice..lol...they don't last long either !!!
Love your channel. Colorists are the best.. We don't have to agree on every little thing. This is about having fun and learning. Joy is awesome thing to have. Thanks Lori.

[tsworldofadultcoloring]

Thank you for doing this! I purchased them this year and I enjoyed coloring with them. I realized while working with them that I need to do light layers and not used a harder pressure. Once I changed that, they were awesome. Also, thanks for stating that we "colorists" are artists too!! I tend to go back and forth with that....not wanting to step on "artists " toes! Well I'll be stepping on them from here on out!😊😄

[PursuingHeaven]

I bought Holbein looking for something "better" than Prisma and "easier" than Poly Chromos. At the time I really did not understand how to use oil pencils nor did I realize the best practices for wax (the wax build-up was driving me crazy). I have since corrected those issues but I still like my Holbeins better than both Prisma and Poly Chromos, in fact, the only pencil I like better is Luminance. BUT I am sure it has to do with the fact Holbein reminds me of oil pastels and I used to work with them, AND like you said I have found that when I use them I get the best of both worlds (Prisma and Poly Chromos) and this, in fact, is why I like Luminance as well (the lightfast is an added bonus). I use them primarily on digital prints that are always printed on at least 67 lb textured paper. I have not tried them much on smooth paper but I do use them in Johanna Basford books with little trouble, but I usually blend with OMS and/or a Luminance White/Blender Pencil. I have no more issues with them than I do Prisma which after watching so many of Chris Cheng tutorials I have finally learned how not to have a heavy hand. I really like using Holbein with Luminance together, much like I like using Prisma with Poly Chromos. Also, I have reached out to a few Japanese professional artists who use Holbein and have also done their own testing and have found the stars on the pencils to be accurate. Since I am only a hobbyist and make art only for myself and my family I am ok with the lightfast doubts (though from what I can tell they perform better than many). I always appreciate your reviews, Lori, you keep it honest and respectful, even with the Fbombs 🤣

[theresarossi]

I went to black the other day and noticed that they do have them there, but, I personally think that they are to much money to purchase them just for coloring books. Love your honesty and I think you are a artist and a amazing one at that.

[carolberres]

Thank you both for sharing your opinions, I own the Holbeins and like them, however I would say Prismacolors and Polychromes are my favorites. This probably has to do with the fact that they were my first two sets and I watched hours of videos of colorists using them while coloring with them. I now have a multitude of pencil sets and if after I have used them 5 or 6 times and I’m not satisfied I gift them to other colorists. Pencil review videos are very helpful and it’s a good idea to watch 2 or 3 different ones before making a decision to purchase, (in my opinion!)

[RealMelodyBlue]

Holy Holbein! I have found that most people who don't like this pencil or that pencil don't know how the pencil works, and that differs from oil to wax based. I've never used a Holbein, so me not having any knowledge about how they're going to perform might affect my opinion. But if you think Holbein's are expensive, go look at the Mitsubishi Uni colored pencils! I would never buy them because, dang, that's a lot of money for me to waste on coloring book pages. Great video Lori!

[dhm]

Remember the Latin saying: Caveat emptor - Let the buyer beware!

[crystalfranklin]

I really appreciate your honesty, Lori, and so enjoyed watching your process in this video. A lot of food for thought. Thank you!

[helencruzbryant]

Thank you for the video Lori. Quite interesting. I've come to the conclusion that opinions will always vary no matter what pencil you talk about. Some will like it and some won't. I love my Holbeins 150 Set. I received them as a surprise gift from my husband via Japan. I've used them without any problems what so ever, even in JB books. Lol. I sort my colored pencils by color so that I don't get caught up playing the oil vs wax game. All colored pencils have both with varying percentages of each. I love mixing my pencils brands together and get quite vivid and bright pictures. I'm very much enjoying my Holbeins and consider them to be suited for any situation. Here's where we differ Lori. I'm the kid in the middle of the floor with all of my toys surrounding me. I want to see and play with it all at once so, I'm a colorist who makes great art using coloring books. I might not be here tomorrow, so why save them. I'm using all of my pencils together! Lol. The joy that I'm having is amazing so I say to you jump in the waters fine. Lol. Do you go to Blicks on Sahara? Me too! Now, I have waited months with you. Your pencils go on the market when?

[Mrs.LadeyBug]

Lol! I’ve had customers of craft stores asking me questions because they think I’m an employee, so I just answer their questions! I did some pencil crayon demos last time I was there and explained the difference between oil and wax pencils. 😆

[MultiFly]

Well said, Lori! I love and appreciate the truth and some out there don't believe it. I can't wait for your pencil set to come out!!! We are so excited!

[evestree]

“ I stay away from Johanna basford paper, because I don’t want to fight my paper” THANK YOUUU I had the same experience and literally started taking photos of book pages and printing them on better paper so I could actually enjoy coloring!! I really feel bad for beginners who don’t know this and have given up thinking they are a bad colorist, I was almost one of them! Thx for sharing !

[NitroMike]

I do alot of multi media art of automotive drawings some with background and some without background. I ordered the pastel 12 set and a 36 Artist set. I love the blending and shading capabilities of the Holbein pencils. I recently ordered the 150 set from Blick.

[jennyb-aeternabitart]

Hi Lori!
Thanks for this insight. I have listened to Lindsey and Jane's reviews of Holbein too. Personally, I like the way they lay down and build up like polychromos, but feel softer on the paper (here in the UK prismacolor are very pricy and not open-stock locally to me). I only have 2 of the holbein so far, and love them. I am using them for scan-only professional work (but would love to have a few more, and to be confident enough in their lightfastness to use them for more). I really appreciate that you have taken the time to test them yourself using the Blue Wool Scale. 😘 Off to watch that next!
At around 21 minutes, you asked what pencils people have found that worked in Johanna Basford's books.
My daughter is colouring her way through a couple of Johanna's books with her Castle Arts pencils. She is getting beautiful results with many blended layers. She also enjoys using them in it.
We can't remember what set they are, because she keeps them in the soft-cover travel case they came in, but think they had a phoenix on the front (that's what the colouring instructions inside are for!), and they definitely aren't the watercolour ones.
JennyB

[leneprior]

Always enjoy your honest take on products. Your respect for other artists is great snd I truly hope that others can give tier opinions. As it is just that “ personal opinions “ no one can ever tell you about your own feelings
Thank you

[cheekyauschick]

Omg you had me at (they probably think i work here!!) Never in all my years listening to You Tube have i ever encountered someone who actually makes me laugh out loud and i did so many times..Your a gem and i subscribed ...bloody love it !!!!

[lacycrowe]

I love you, Lori! I found myself cackling with the adult language, but I also love your respect for the opinions of others while also giving your own honest opinion. Your channel is one of my favorites.

[joannam]

I have only 12 pastel colors from holbein, I color mostly Johanna Basford books and I enjoy holbein on that paper more than my polychromos. It’s less fallout than polychromos. Holbein blends way better on that paper. But maybe I don’t notice the blooming you mentioned. Or maybe the pastel ones are different than regular ones. But I’m considering getting a full holbein set if I go to japan again (hoping they will be cheaper there).

[maryroman]

One of the more relaxing and informative pastimes I have is listening to your videos and learning a lot of tid bits about pencils, how they are made, their quality ect...Is it necessary to curse. it takes away from a wonderful past time....