James White's Fallacies regarding 'Synergism.'

This is part one of Dr. Leighton Flowers rebuttal to Dr. James White's misrepresentation of Southern Baptist Traditionalism.

Dr. Leighton Flowers critiques White's recent Dividing Line Program in which White straw-man's "synergism." Dr. Flowers goes point by point through White's commentary to reveal the fallacies and answer the arguments.

In future broadcasts, Flowers will cover White's debate with Trent Horn and Michael Brown over the ability to lose one's salvation...so stay tuned.

[rtgray]

Thank you once again Leighton for being the voice for all of us Traditionalist! May God continue to grow and bless your ministry.

[twosoutherngraces]

Explaining to a Calvinist that being saved by faith (in that scripture teaches faith proceeds regeneration) through grace is not synergism...

is like...

explaining to people Christianity, believing in the trinity, isn’t polytheism...

[DamonH-]

About the comment by both Dr. White and Dr. Flowers about there being different types of Synergist and Calvinist. White was refering to soteriological differences among Synergist, which can widely vary as to require different means to be saved. Some groups teach that to be saved: water baptism is needed, keeping sacraments, or that we must maintain our salvation to stay saved, or we can lose it. Calvinist are all in agreement when it comes to Soteriology; that being regeneration precedes faith, and those whom God has predestined will be saved. Where Calvinist differ is on other issues which are not crucial to being Reformed: infant vs adult baptism, full immersion or sprinkling baptism, forms of church goverment, etc...

[garyboulton]

It seems like Calvinists feel like they have to lower man to raise up God. I dont believe God needs any help with being who He is which is the most high

[pauljordan]

Very good, eye opening.... as always!

[nicholasnoyola]

writing a research paper on whether or not judicial hardening can provide a consistent interpretation of Ro. 9! #NOBTSLIFE

[fromanabe]

How is it that all these Calvinists know they are among the elect? If it's purely God's choice who to save then no one can really know if they are in that company. It's simply a toss-up since god chooses people to save without any merit or without their needing to avail themselves of Jesus' sacrifice and payment for their sins. Why don't we hear from some Calvinists who are willing to say, "I'm among the damned." Or, failing that, why do none say, "I have no idea who God will save and who he will damn."?

[fredflintstone]

James White deals with this video in today's DL

[lanigame]

Dr. Flowers, are you not describing determinism, only of a different color? God allows libertarian free choice and He can always gets his way in spite of our decisions.
My question is, since God chooses to not win every soul even though He could regardless of our choices, isn’t He really then, determining life and death through his choice of letting some remain lost; And he is free to do so because he is the potter and we’re the clay?
I’m missing something, because why then would he wish for all to be saved? If He did, they would be.
🤯

[humbertothebeliever]

Scripture is crystal clear God provided atonement for sin through Jesus (Romans 5:8-19), but one must exercise BELIEVE IN THE HEART in that gift in order to be saved. Jehovah made provision through Jesus for our inherited sin passed on from Adam, but we need to set our hearts in that appropriation and walk in the newness Christ set for us.
It's not rocket science.

Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me....Revelation 3:20

"if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the HEART one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved."..Romans 10:9

I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not BELIEVE that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.”...John 8:24

But many who heard the message believed; so the number of men who BELIEVED grew to about five 4:4

When he had gone indoors, the blind men came to him, and he asked them, “Do you BELIEVE that I am able to do this?” “Yes, Lord, ” they replied....Mathew 9:28

And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must BELIEVE that he exists and that he rewards those who EARNESTLY SEEK 11:16

For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the OBEDIENCE of the one man the many WILL BE made righteous....Romans 5:19

Notice carefully Romans 5:19 says WILL BE MADE righteous. It does not say WERE MADE is because one needs to BELIEVE in Christ atonement. One CANT be made righteous if One Rejects that atonement. That's why Romans 5:19 says WILL BE made righteous. A condition exists on our part. Jehovah and Jesus already did their part, men needs to make a decision.
Think about it. Why do you think Satan fights tooth n nail to convince people not to believe there is a God? But even when he fails to do that for some, he tries his best to rob us of that belief? And finally when he can't convince some that there is no God and fails to rob us of the belief in the atonement, he persecute us?

For it is written in Revelation 12:17
Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.

I feel bad for Calvanists. I really do. They have been indoctrinated into a belief that in large parts contradicts the simple gospel. I pray they can apply better discernment in understanding and interpreting scripture. Like Paul said of the Jews, They have a zeal for God, but not according to accurate knowledge (Romans 10:2). It is God's desire that all come to an accurate knowledge of the Truth.

[francesvincent]

God already did His part now we have to come to Jesus and repent and ask Jesus to save

[humbertothebeliever]

LOL...Calvanism was founded on synergism.🤣

[bobfree]

GOD could do all what calvanists say, but does HE do what calvanists Think he Does. i think calvanists think they KNOW Gods mind and Will.Basically thier Raising GOD to areas that might not be what God has Allowed or Determined. And i agree with and Dr Flowers an scripture over and over disagrees with calvanism, especially the L in tulip, which imho is Dreadful and Terrible which was Calvains own words.That tells me something is wrong with high calvanism!!

[glennashcraft]

Could you calculate the % of your programs devoted to White, and the % devoted to Calvinism?

In your discussions on Sotierology, you could discuss other religions, JS.

[kiyasuihito]

16:00 it's ironic that you claim James White is strawmaning you, yet, if you actually cared to know what he says about God's responsibility of men's evil actions, you couldn't claim that he believes God is responsible for a second. *You* are making a strawman argument now.

[The_Iron_Disciple]

The fact that you used the word arbitrary immediately signifies that you don’t understand God, or at the least don’t understand Calvinism. God never does anything arbitrarily.