Why the Trinity Doctrines are Wrong | God Matters

In the opening message of the Summer Ottawa Camp Meeting we examine "Why the Trinity Doctrines are Wrong"

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Jesus often utilized the speech style of “illeism”. He spoke “IN the third person” about Himself, never “ABOUT a third person” (see example John 3:16). Who's the Helper and Spirit of Truth? Jesus tells you it's Himself – John 14:18, 21, 23.

Where is the Father's Spirit if His Spirit is another person? He would cease to exist, as Almighty God is only a Spirit. When did the Father ever express His love for the other spirit person, as He does for His Son?

When did the Apostles excoriate John when he constantly wrote only the Father and Son were the true God, eternal life, and the only object of our fellowship? Why is it antichrist to reject the Father or Son (two), and not the Trinity (three), if they're inseparable?

When did Jesus pray for each Believer to be one with the three of them?

[mikem]

They went out from us, because they weren’t of us 🙏 1 John 2:19

[robertrodriguezperez]

Excellent presentation much needed. It deserves a second and third part God willing.

[kevingrant]

Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeded out of the mouth of God... God say one thing the serpent said something else.. man fall, Jesus say baptized in The Father The Son and The Holy Ghost, man say something else smh... If we only just stick to God word and humble our self this world would not be in so much problem.

[fcastellanos]

The gospel is: The Almighty God, the Father and God of Jesus, (John 20:17), has reconciled the world to himself through the death of his unblemished, sinless human son, so that debt humanity had with Him, due to their transgression, has been paid in full. From the book of James 1, we know that our temptations come from our own desires which are sinful. We inherited them from Adam and Eve. Jesus did not have those desires because he was created by the Almighty in Mary, bypassing a human father, therefore, as the gospel tells us, Jesus was tempted by Satan and he did not sin, not because he was God or the Father, but because he did not yield to what Satan resorted to deceive him, unlike Adam and Eve who succumbed to Satan's deception.

[reinokuikka]

Amen!!! SDA Trademark Church is coming ”an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live” Revelation 13: 14.

[ericzahn]

Sin is transgressions of law, Jesus said you break one you broke all which is sin

[williamhartweg]

Getting to Hell!!! The Bible talks about Hell, " Hell is the Grave= Pitt=Hell"! When we leave the World. Luke 16:23+Matthew 5:29+ Psalm 6:5;9:17 andNumbers 16:30+33!!!

[johnmphiri]

IGNORANCE OF SCRIPTURES IS A VERY COMMON THING. THE TRINITY IS A MYSTERY. YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND IT! SO YOUR DISCOURSE IS FUTILE.

[lookingforthetruth]

My 3rd time watching, this was profound, i wish all adventist would watch this and listen with an unbiased heart. In my opinion, when many are saying Lord Lord, but didn't i do this, didnt i do that, in your name ect... When Jesus says depart from I never knew you, i understand it as christians, who try to do and say a lot in the name of Jesus, but never knew Him, in the sense that they didn't understand this topic your speaking on now, they think they know Jesus, they might preach Jesus, but with the understanding of the Trinity in their minds, they are not understanding him, His Father, or His Holy Spirit, i might not be explaining what's in my head properly, but only those who "think" they are doing Gods will and think they are teaching truth, are going to be the ones pleading with Jesus like that, not atheist, or muslims, jews ect ... So all of these trinity believers don't have a true understanding or knowledge of Jesus, who he is, or His father, therefore they are preaching and teaching lies, could that be one of the reasons why He says " depart from me ye workers of iniquity"? We know there are pastors who sell out for a big pay check, nice retirement, power, respect of the higher ups, and also preachers who don't have a humble heart and seek the Lord for themselves and just join with the majority to be accepted of the masses, and many more, im wondering who are the people that the Lord is talking to here, it has to be men in power positions right? Preachers and teachers, elders, and popular christian speakers? Idk I've been thinking about this a lot, it cant be the average person in the pew, or at least i don't think, id love to hear other peoples understanding on this. God bless this ministry, I've been blessed 🙏💯👍

[susangoodman]

@45:50 time, Jesus died and the Father resurected Jesus. If u say that Jesus did not die that affects the sanctuary message. The high priest can only be human and that's why Jesus is our high priest. Acts 2:24, 10:40, 13:30, Galations 1:1, 1Peter 1:3.

[brewstercox]

If He had not come in the flesh, most likely the limited dark glass look or analysis would be that God is a headless ghost and as it is, both descendants of Ishmael and Jacob say " God forbid that He should have a son" what is implied by Rev.21:22? Or the baptism anecdotes? Perhaps the statement " That Christ is the light of every man that has come into the world" might mean the Holy spirit has been more pervasive than imagined!

[GeorgeSchumpf]

You read too much into the term.Role playing.

You engage in role playing yourself, and it's not acting. When you are in the pulpit, you play the role of preacher. When you are in your office you might play the role of counselor when you are at home in your child's bedroom. You play the role of father when you are in your own bedroom. You play the role of husband but you Better not play the role of husband. Your church office or in your child's bedroom. These are real roles, not acting roles.And you just don't know what you're talking about

[Lamsakuku]

Thank you for revealed the fact the people not teach our God is one and his only begotten son Jesus.

[GeorgeSchumpf]

Christ said no man takes my life from me. I have the power to lay it down and the power to take it up again.How does that fit into your sermon?

[GeorgeSchumpf]

Well, you went on to describe what it does not mean in your sermon, but you did not tell us what it does mean in your sermon

[jeanwilkinson]

Christ came forth from the father from the eternal past before the foundation of heavens and earth

[williamhartweg]

Matthew 28:19, so 1.John 7:5 you don't find in the Hebrew or Greek Manuscripts!! Read Acts 2:38, it would be a contradiction! Read EGW, ( PTUK-Jan.9, 1896pg.191)+ ( ELlen G.White Lt84, October 22, 1895)+(CCH76.5) and read Signs of the Times, July 23, 1902)

[dallyjacobson]

How did The Archangel Micheal overshadow Mary so as to impregnate her with Jesus?
The Scriptures say that the angel said to Mary, The Holy Ghost shall come upon you, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow you: therefore also that holy thing that shall be born of thee, shall be called the Son of God.
Where does it say that Micheal got in there and that he is called the Son of God?? Do you see the dilemma that SDA teaching puts one in. Can you tell me how to reconcile this problem.
Regards

[brentmiller]

1st Corinthians 15 1-4 is the Gospel Bubba, I thank The Father every day for sending his from everlasting to everlasting Son! And sealing me with his Holy Spirit. Behold O' Israel the LORD (Plural) (Elohim) =1 God. Dude Jesus is not a "mode" He is KING! Good luck when you stand before him! False Teacher!😇 In True Christian Love, Of Course!