Sedevacantism and Despair

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[johnraymond-pzbo]

Sedevacantists reject idolatry and idolator and apostates.

And we are scorned for it.
Good!

[JacquesMigne]

An interesting thought I have had, is that sedevacantism actually has saved the church in these modern times. Even if the hierarchy was still intact and V-2 never happened, in this degenerate age fueled by liberalism and aided by technology, scores of priests would be teaching heresy and committing grave sin and scandal (as is the case of the v-2 priests, many ordained in the 1950s and 1960s). And that would take away the Church's mark of unity and holiness. It's hard to translate this idea to text, but in my mind there was no other option for the Holy Ghost to let this happen.

[jeffm.]

Best video ever. Brought tears to our eyes.

[giseleademers]

Did Christ not say When the Son of Man return, will He still find faith on earth

[mauricecollins]

I go to a sede mass, because, among other reasons, the priests do not put the name of a manifest heretic into the canon of the mass

[dr.parakletos]

Your whole Sedevacantism series is excellent. Thank you for the gift of your videos.

[seraphheart]

God's thoughts are higher than our thoughts..

[Truth-juxv]

Thank your for the video, its nice to see that there is some that can see. I wanted to offer the core reason why the Chair is vacant. You did touch upon the modernism but if one were to research the phrase "religious indifferentism; idolatry, you would find the lamentations of the Popes going back at least until the very early days of the 1800's.

Sedevacantism equals God's supreme punishment upon His people, the Catholic church for embracing religious indifferentism. This is not new and its not unprecedented. God has done this before. When God's people revolt and disobey, He will cast them out and the land and objects of worship, He will cast out.

God did this from the beginning with Adam. Adam and Eve had the land of paradise taken away from them and they were cast out by God. The Children of Israel under Mose's and Josue, were cast into the wilderness for revolting against God at length for 40 years. Though Josue and Caleb did not disobey God, they had to endure the punishment.

God did this with the children of Israel during Jeremias time. His people embraced religious indifferentism; idolatry. And so, God handed over Jerusalem and Solomon's Temple to the pagan King Nebuchanessor II, the Old Testament sacrifice was abolished and almost everyone was enslaved under King Nebuchannessor II for 70 years. Here is what God said when Solomon's Temple was finished. God did not promise a pope without qualifications of obedience.

2 Paralipomenon 7:16-21 For I have chosen, and have sanctified this place, that my name [may] be there for ever, and my eyes and my heart [may remain there perpetually]. And as for thee, if thou walk before me, as David thy father walked, and do according to all that I have commanded thee, and keep my justices and my judgments: I will raise up the throne of thy kingdom, as I promised to David thy father, saying: There shall not fail thee a man of thy stock to be ruler in Israel. But if you turn away, and forsake my justices, and my commandments which I have set before you, and shall go and serve strange gods, and adore them, I will pluck you up by the root out of my land which I have given you: and this house which I have sanctified to my name, I will cast away from before my face, and will make it a byword, and an example among all nations.

I will offer one letter of lamentation from Pope Leo XII on religious indifferentism in 1824.

Pope Leo XII Ubi Primum — 1824
13. Of course this error is not new, but in Our days it rages with a new rashness against the constancy and integrity of the Catholic faith. Eusebius cites Rhodo as his source for saying that the heretic Apelles in the second century had already produced the mad theory that faith should not be investigated, but that each man should persevere in the faith he was raised in.[11] Even those who put faith in a crucified man were to be saved, according to Apelles, provided that they engaged in good works. Rhetorius too, as We learn from St. Augustine, used to claim that all the heretics walked on the right road and spoke truth. But Augustine adds that this is such nonsense that he cannot believe it.[12] The current indifferentism has developed to the point of arguing that everyone is on the right road. …


And so, just like the Old Testament, God has now, in these last days of the world punished His Catholic church because they did not listen and obey. God handed over Rome, St. Peter's Basilica and the buildings around the world to freemasons because the Catholic church embraced religious indifferentism. This is so apropos because freemasonry is the epitome of religious indifferentism. And because the devil always apes God, he had his minions take the buildings, creating their own false sacraments, a false, "priesthood", a false altar and a false sacrifice. It became a human church as St. Paul says in Romans ch. 1.

Romans 1:23 And they changed the glory of the incorruptible God [into the likeness of the image of a corruptible man], and of birds, and of fourfooted beasts, and of creeping things.

Pope Gregory XVI Mirari Vos; On Liberalism and Religious Indifferentism — 1832
10. …To use the words of the fathers of Trent, it is certain that the Church “was instructed by Jesus Christ and His Apostles and that all truth was daily taught it by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.”[12] Therefore, it is obviously absurd and injurious to propose a certain “restoration and regeneration” for her as though necessary for her safety and growth, as if she could be considered subject to defect or obscuration or other misfortune. Indeed these authors of novelties consider that a “foundation may be laid of a new human institution, ” and what Cyprian detested may come to pass, [that what was a divine thing “may become a human church].”[13]

The proof for everything that I said, points right at these antipopes, they promote religious indifferentism right in front of your face. They participate in pagan rituals right in front of your face e.g. "Assisi Prayer Day For Peace" in 1986. Pachamama pagan ritual etc. All these antipopes preach peace thru the promotion of false religions.

Jeremias 6:14 And they healed the breach of the daughter of my people disgracefully, [saying: Peace, peace: and there was no peace].

Ezekiel 13:9-10 And my hand shall be upon the prophets that see vain things, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the council of my people, nor shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel, and you shall know that I am the Lord God. Because they have deceived my people, saying: [Peace, and there is no peace]: and the people built up a wall, and they daubed it with dirt without straw.

There are few people that know biblical history and that God is the same yesterday, today and forever and therefore they cannot recognize the present condition of the Catholic church, that it has been reduced to a very tiny remnant.

Ecclesiastes 1:9-11 What is it that hath been? the same thing that shall be. What is it that hath been done? the same that shall be done. 10 Nothing under the sun is new, neither is any man able to say: Behold this is new: for it hath already gone before in the ages that were before us. There is no remembrance of former things: nor indeed of those things which hereafter are to come, {shall there be any remembrance with them that shall be in the latter end}.

The Catholic church has been delivered over to our enemies; the gentiles; the carnal kings.

Baruch 4:6-11 You have been sold to the Gentiles, not for your destruction: but because you provoked God to wrath, you are delivered to your adversaries. 7 For you have provoked him who made you, the eternal God, offering sacrifice to devils, and not to God. 8 For you have forgotten God, who brought you up, and you have grieved Jerusalem that nursed you. 9 For she saw the wrath of God coming upon you, and she said: Give ear, all you that dwell near Sion, for God hath brought upon me great mourning: 10 For I have seen the captivity of my people, of my sons, and my daughters, which the Eternal hath brought upon them. For I nourished them with joy: but I sent them away with weeping and mourning.

Esther 14:6-10 We have sinned in thy sight, and therefore thou hast delivered us into the hands of our enemies: For we have worshipped their gods. Thou art just, O Lord. And now they are not content to oppress us with most hard bondage, but attributing the strength of their hands to the power of their idols, They design to change thy promises, and destroy thy inheritance, and shut the mouths of them that praise thee, and extinguish the glory of thy temple and altar, That they may open the mouths of Gentiles, and praise the strength of idols, [and magnify for ever a carnal king].

The church is visible in its few members, but hard to see.

Isaias 1:8-9 And the {daughter of Sion} shall be left as a {covert} in a vineyard, and as a lodge in a garden of cucumbers, and as a city that is laid waste. Except the Lord of hosts had {left us seed}, we had been as Sodom, and we should have been like to Gomorrha.

[tth]

No such thing as luck. They were, and we all still are, blessed to receive the Sacrements, esp the Eucharist.

[JeremiahAlphonsus]

Excellent. However, doesn’t the parenthetical “(if possible)” indicate that the elect will NOT be deceived?

[TravelingPilgrim-ctmh]

Question: In her Apparitions, the Virgin Mary call the Popes of our time as "POPE" not false Popes.
Would that mean that by taking the Sedevacantism position that your rejecting the words of the Mother of God?
Or are you insinuating that she is lying?

[mariamartins]

The bible says when you see the abomination enter the house of God, run to the mountains.

Purification will start, a time of darkness, until the church ratifies its error.
It dosent say when you see the abominations enter the house of God, get out and make onother church.

Protestantism is man made.
A counterfeit to the church of Christ, and its true even the elect are being decived.

Virgim Mary said to Pedro Reis in Brazil, multitudes are dying in their sins thinking they are already saved.
Heresies everywhere.

She also said, the body and blood of Jesus Christ in Eucharist for the remission of sin, only in holy Catholic Apostolic Church the church established and ordained by Jesus Christ.
Man made Churchs its not there.

[ryan]

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[horizon-one]

Sedevacantism is taking the authority of Christ into your own hands rather than waiting on Christ to rectify His Church. Sedevacantism destroys the structure Christ established, avoids the cross and is an act of pride. Christ stated He allows tares to grow with wheat until the end of the age. It is possible to practice the traditional faith without breaking from the Chair of Peter.

[alby]

It's when people know what the Church teaches, states,claims, commands, that they come to the inevitable conclusion that these people adhere to a different faith, which is not catholic.

[smoshfan]

1. If Sedevacantism is true, it still wouldn't be the greatest deception... That would actually be if Islam was true

2. If Sedevacantism is true, it doesn't mean the mainline Catholic Church is completely wrong as well... They would still have valid bishops, sacraments, holy orders, etc. It would simply mean the mainline Catholic Church is in a similar boat to the Orthodox Christian Churches.

3. It seems arrogant to assume a Pope elected by valid Bishops is invalid simply because you don't like him or that you believe Vatican 2 is wrong, unclear, or bad theology... especially when you believe your bishops can do such a thing still anyway. Wouldn't that mean that the Eastern Orthodox can usurp the Papacy if they wanted because they are valid bishops as well? Or do you believe Orthodox Churches do not have a valid Priesthood or Sacraments? After all the Eastern Orthodox were excommunicated after they rejected an ecumenical council just as Sedevacantists do. In such a case do you believe only Sedevacantists have valid bishops?

4.Isn't the claim of the Church and Pope being corrupted by Satan the same claim the Islam, Protestants, and Mormons make? Why should the Sedevacantist claim hold more weight when this is obviously a recycled deception used time and again to attack the Catholic Church?

5. I agree that something being difficult so we shouldn't believe it is a bad argument for a Christian; but difficulty also is not evidence for correctness so this argument is basically irrelevant as evidence for either side of the debate

6. "If Sedevacantism is true the church has separated from evil; If Sedevacantism isn't true then the Church is evil."
This is an unprovable assumption and a bad argument. It's essentially saying X is wrong because i disagree with X therefore Y is right because i disagree with X.

7. We have had bad Popes in the past who propagated heterodox and heretical theologies so why does this suddenly make newer Popes false or the Church Evil?
Wouldn't this be an Argument that supports Protestantism when they claimed the Pope was supporting heresies and sin, therefore the Catholic Church was corrupted. After all they claim that since the Catholic Church was corrupted we must have misinterpreted what the Church of Christ actually is.

8. To me Sedevacantism appears to be a form of fearmongering based on some truths but is ultimately filled with currently unproven assumptions from people who are upset at changes in the Church.

9. While I am pretty sure that there are harmful theologies circulating in the Catholic Church, I'm also pretty sure the Sedevacantists aren't free of this themselves either

[mariamartins]

The body and blood of Jesus Christ in Eucharist for the remission of sin, only in holy Catholic Apostolic Church.

Virgim Mary said this, in Brazil to Pedro Reis .

Man made Churchs its not there.

She akso saud multitudes are dying in their sins thinking they are already saved.



Jesus Christ said hell wouldn't prevail against His church.

For sedevancatism to be true, means hell prevailed against Christ church

No authority from God whatsoever.

Romans13:1
Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities For there is no authority except that wich God has established.


Even if Catholic Church gets something rong, they will get rid of it,
It will get ready for the coming of our God.
That dosent mean we can go and nake counterfeits.


Protestantism is the big deception.
1 Timothy 4:4
Man will turn away from sound doctrines, and turn to fables.


No we are not saved just by believing in Jesus Christ.


Jesus Christ established a church whithin His church a new covenant with His blood for the remission of sin,
He ordained priests, and bishops, and gave them authority to baptize, forgive or retain sin and authority to celebrate the Eucharist.


To live what Jesus established and ordained we must believe in Jesus Christ.

[bengensiejewski]

Rome has never defected despite many across the years claiming it has. They've all been wrong, including you.