Fencing advice for KNIFE FIGHTING: CUTTING

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There are many ways to cut with a knife, sword or other bladed weapon. However, some ways expose you less and have a greater chance of success - knight fighting techniques can learn a lot from fencing principles.

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As a NONE HEMA person, I super enjoyed this insight into what complexities there are to the discipline. Top sword masters of old would have been like Ace fighter pilots. Having been exposed to so much real time action, they would have been pretty dominant on the battlefield. In both cases, you might only get a chance to get it wrong 'ONCE'. Every time you got it right (and survived) you would have been so much ahead of the next guy. Top quality content.

jm

Thanks to the power of the internet, I've unfortunately seen video of a real knife fight between two men where one used a large Bowie in a fencing style, while the other used a smaller hunting knife. The "fencer" dominated the fight right off the bat, ultimately ending the fight with a fatal move to the other man that punctured his...um...skull. His movements were very similar to what you described and demonstrated here, using his wrist to make cuts and thrusts using the reach advantage of his knife without stepping into the other man's danger zone or exposing himself.

stevep.

Apologies if I have commented previously, I can’t remember, I am a grand Mal Stroke Survivor. I am a YouTube fan, to help my concentration/ focus. I fenced in college, (Epee) this presentation helped me focus. I learned something. Cheers!

christopherseivard

I was pretty excited to see knife work. This is a great video, perhaps another time you can show techniques with a 3-4" blade. The things that work with a bowie aren't applicable to a blade with almost no mass. I'm guessing UK laws and the historical nature of the channel may make this harder than with things that are essentially short swords. Would be nice to learn more ways for my fencing to apply to daily use blades. The footwork and timing is helpful, getting in and out, sneaking in little pops and jabs.

greggonley

I'm coming from memory! There was u tube vid from a guy who is the leading expert on knife fighting in the U.S. on pioneers in these small settlements who on a regular basis kill one another in the taverns, he seems to come the same way as your said from the wrist. from fencing fighting using bowies and those big tooth pick kind of knives. thanks for the history and info!

dragdragon

I've been in 6 knife fights in my life, of them only one wasn't mainly fought at grappling distance where i was needing to stop them from manipulating my arms and head while i cut and stabbed at the oponant

HunterGargoyle

In Bowie fencing the moulinet can be devastating from the guard with a back cut using the sharpened clip. A notorious blow.

wehrewulf

Another great presentation, really interesting - keep them coming, I'm 150 miles from any HEMA or sport fencing so these are invaluable, really appreciated.
One good thing about somebody will think twice about pressing an attack if you're lightly standing on your toes, en garde and a Moulinette-ing. It implies a level of ability best avoided.

daemonharper

Hi Matt, when mentioning one of your previous videos, such as the Biddle "Take The Hand" video at 5:00, I encourage you to link to it in the description, and also provide a link to it with a youTube card (which also shows up for mobile viewers), and mention "... which you can find linked in case you haven't seen it yet". This will increase the likelihood that viewers who haven't seen it (like me) will click the link and view it. Removed friction for more viewership, and all that. Mentioning and *linking* your previous videos is a great way to keep your older videos bringing in views.

bassemb

7:10 This is something former UFC Champion Georges Saint Peirre said that he uses in his MMA style, Georges said he learned it from Bruce Lee and we know Bruce adopted it from European fencing "using the longest distance weapon to the nearest target"
In MMA this is the side and oblique kicks, to the kneecap and it is now commonly used

stephanwatson

As a fan of modern MMA, the overlap is fascinating.

Mma gloves are much smaller than boxing gloves, meaning the guards and techniques have to change, much like moving from swords to rapiers to knives with variable hand protection.

The advantage of beginning an attack with a thrust is like beginning a combo with a jab, and countering with a cut is like countering with a hook.

Now that I think of it, just the other day, a fighter named Khalil Rountree was actually using his lead hand to strike at his opponent’s (Chris Daukaus) lead hand.

honestindomitus

I saw a knife vs ice pick fight in New Orleans, it was essentially a weoponized wrestling match. Both went to the hospital, knife guy, later, was moved to the morgue. Presumably ice pick guy went to jail.

raydrexler

Thanks for the free lesson, Matt. I appreciate it.

dlmiller

These techniques with weapons have a very interesting relationship with unarmed combat.

The dichotomy of thrust vs cut is very similar to the question of straight punches vs hooks. A check hook is a very common counter off the straight jab

Conceptualizing a fist fight as armed combat is also a very frightening and humbling perspective

TenaciousTentacruel

The "On Guard Knife Stance" (OGKS) John Styers demonstrated in _Cold Steel: Technique of Close Combat_ (1952) was a masterful knife retracted next to the body position to chamber the knife for either direct, torso-pivoting thrusts (NOT lunges!) or linear wrist-powered snap cuts. The OGKS also had the advantage of drawing an opponent into the range of the OGKS thrusts and cuts without the opponent realizing it, especially because both of these attacks are, when done correctly, extremely non-telegraphed and very fast---often they will land on target and be retracted back out of range before the opponent can react.

robertlehnert