Jordan Peterson VS Friedrich Nietzsche | Is God Dead?

Jordan Peterson on the belief in God and his reply to Nietzsche's "God is Dead" proclamation, discussing the worries of Nihilism.

Jordan Peterson has been frequently found quoting Nietzsche’s worries about the Death of God in various of his lectures, not a celebratory event but a catastrophic one, symbolising the end of all Judaeo-Christian values that have been known and compiled for millennia, from all kinds of civilizations and that are deeply rooted within our psyche.

It is clear that Nietzsche had deep worries about the consequences of atheism to replace the gap appearing from eliminating the Judaeo-Christian values with another set of solid values. However, he was an atheist and did not ever suggest returning to these values. Nietzsche did not lament the
decline of the values, and certainly did not suggest returning to them if possible.

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⌛ Timestamps

0:00 The Meaning behind the Death of God
2:41 Nietzsche and Atheism
3:08 Nietzsche on Christian values
7:09 Jordan Peterson on Christian values
10:09 Nietzsche’s prediction
20th century
11:48 Nietzsche's philosophy
14:42 Jordan Peterson recommends reading Nietzsche
17:38 What would Peterson have asked Nietzsche?

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Clips used from the following sources (in order of appearance):

- Maps of Meaning: 1. Monsters Of Our Own Making.

- 2017 Personality 11: Existentialism: Nietzsche Dostoevsky & Kierkegaard

- Biblical Series I: Introduction to the Idea of God

- Banned lecture at Linfield College: Ethics and Free Speech

- April 2019 Q and A

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[vatoloco]

"Your not alone in your psyche" that's a tough pill to swallow and take responsibility for

[TheGilzam]

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[namelessoverman]

A well-researched video that packs enough in a short time regarding the substantiality of Peterson's assertions on Nietzschean philosophy; well done!

[ministryoftruth]

I agree with Jung and Peterson that it isn't reasonable from Nietzsche to expect every person to arrive at their own hierarchy of values, but for different reasons.
1. I think Nietzsche greatly misses the point of morality in his transvaluation. Morality is not like aesthetics. We need moral values primarily so that we can live with other members of our species with minimum conflict. Moral values are social values, hence these cannot be created individually, nor all the time. Moral values must necessarily be agreed upon, shared, negotiated, they're the result of a consensus, a societal contract; ideally passed in a non-intrusive manner through traditions/institutions and updated only when strictly necessary, cause moral values need a good measure of permanence/stability to work best. It just so happens that for a very long time the Church/Christianity held a monopoly over the traditions/institutions of the West, but it need not be so: morality is independent from religion, and secular traditions/institutions are perfectly capable of passing along moral values, so moral values need not be religious values.
2. Even if point 1 were not a thing, I do not think it would be reasonable to expect every single individual to have the capacity, time, and inclination to work out their own hierarchy of values. If every single individual differed so little in all these regards we could hardly call them individuals. They'd be more akin to the Borg.
My 2 cents for what they're worth. Thank you for the excellent videos.

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[enbilerfrainitiald]

I respect Jordan Peterson a lot. However, I'm more on Nietzsche's side on this one. Peterson's religion is so nuanced that almost nobody holds his views, he doesn't even believe in a god insofar as there's evidence for one, but acts as if he exists. I understand that Judaeo-christian values have been developed for millennia with older religions enmeshed in them and so on. But, a religion is by essence dogmatic, it does not advance with science, it stays the same. The religious texts are not modified, that's the problem. Why not create a "religion" that is honest and does modify its texts, Peterson would say that it's metaphoric, has to be interpreted, has to be viewed as the era where slavery and so on was completely normal, but that doesn't take away it's responsibility to advance its views as we advance as human beings. At least, I'm not convinced yet.

[timteller]

Yes, if you live your life and work, eat, sleep, watch TV in between,
you have a lot of time left to find the right ethics and morals for yourself that guide you through life.

[psychmaestro]

Amazing critique & analysis!

Your tweet led me here!

[spasticalien]

i see jordan peterson quote nietzsche often, this clears things! thanks for the video

[Whytedebil]

Reminder of what a philosopher is for the narrow minded ideologues.

A philosopher is a person who studies or writes about philosophy, or who is deeply knowledgeable about it. Philosophers are often logical thinkers who base their views on evidence and reason, and who seek to understand the meaning of life. They may also offer theories or views on topics like ethics, logic, and metaphysics.

Maybe they mean to say he’s no prophet on which I would agree. Not agreeing with his politics or views doesn’t negate/subtract from his PHILOSOPHIES.

Read a great statement about him on the internet somewhere (don’t remember where and I’m paraphrasing) that said something along the lines of “if you’re fanatically opposed to Peterson who’s clearly helping a lot of people. Men and women who feel lost, chances are it says more about you than it does him”.

[lutherking]

"We cant create our own values because we don't have that capacity" well that's something a man who hasn't found the treasure that is hard to attain would say, JP didn't find it, CJ didn't find it, Nietzsche came scary close to finding it, if only he had that thing, the thing which is the journey and the destination to enable him to pull himself out of the madness... We can infact realize our capacity to form our own morals, all it takes is a good old fashioned destiny's trial which you need to pass... Without it you guys are all lost and will cling to whatever philosophy that makes sense to you without fully knowledge if it was the right thing.

One thing I will say though, dont be sheep, it is everyone's individual journey and so you alone are responsible for your actions.

[shadwinfo]

Excellent summary. Both have strong points.

[donotletthebeeswin]

I think this video essay fundamentally misunderstands what Nietzsche meant by "God is dead". It's not that God no longer governs our reality, that he's deposed. Instead, it's that he's been rendered unbelievable and his institutions lack the spirit that they once did.

[kellykizer]

So if Nechie thought that we had to create our own values seeing that Christianity was dead wouldn’t enlightened self interest take the place of Christianity and you would still end up with the same values of don’t lie, steal or kill seeing that you wouldn’t want anyone to lie steel or kill you.

[kellykizer]

Instead of saying, religion say argument by design argument and by cause argument and by ontological argument. These are the ideas that are at the heart of your belief in a God and the so-called religion. what you’re bound to.

[blackshadow]

The final video . I've watched everything now . You made me aware .

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