Nietzsche’s influence on Jordan B. Peterson

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From @lexfridman's podcast with Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

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JordanBPeterson
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Nietzsche is way above my reading level. At some points I could only get through a few sentences at a time before having to set the book down and pace around my room contemplating what he had said. It took me a couple days to get through the first chapter of Beyond Good and Evil. I haven’t gotten myself motivated enough to read anymore yet, but what I learned from that first chapter is really interesting and I still think about the point that he made regarding free will. He said that we neither have free will nor ‘non free will’ rather it is a matter of having a weak will and a strong will.

ryanside
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I completed the intro to Nietzsche course in PA it really was amazing. Nietzsche was wayyyy ahead of his time.

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Nietzsche and the woman he loved, Lou Salomé, together with Rainer Maria Rilke, these were the three who always built my foundation: Music inspired deep inquisition, female introspection into personal and interpersonal structures, poetic creation of meaning.

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My intro to Nietzche was the late 90s / early 00s videogame series Soul Reaver (of which a remaster was just recently announced and scheduled for release in December). It's a gothic fantasy series about vampires vs demons, but the story is drenched in Nietzhean philosophy, especially the stuff about free will. The name "Nietzche" is never uttered at any point in the games, obviously, because it wouldn't make sense with the setting, but it's clearly grappling with Nietzche's free will problem.

The guy who starts out as the main villain, the vampire Kain, turns out to be more of an anti-hero who is trying to thwart a far greater evil than himself (demons), one that seeks to doom the world by trapping it into a horrible binary choice. The protagonist, Raziel, has to decide whether to pursue vengeance against Kain or let go of his hate and join forces with Kain to fight the greater threat, and find a third option, a way out of the terrible binary choice the demons have locked the world into.

The most quoted line from the series relates to Nietzchean philosophy:

Raziel: "You said it yourself, there are only two sides of the coin."

Kain: "Apparently so...but suppose you throw a coin enough times...suppose one day, it lands on its edge..."

I'll admit, a lot of philosophy goes over my head, but there's a great video on YT called "Soul Reaver: A Nietzchean Nightmare" that lays it all out.

JadeRunner
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Bless this Man for standing up to the corruption that exists within the Education System.

bryanmathison
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I'm not sure that Peterson understood Nietzsche if he holds him in such a high regard.. because Nietzsche HIMSELF describes himself, and all modern Western philosophers as "cheap caricatures" compared to the Greeks

geospatial-KML
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Thx Dr Peterson, you're the last bastion of opposition.

ulak
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You cannot really Nitzsche unless you read his work in the original language. (Well that goes for most writers; but Nitzsche is special as misinterpreting his philosophy most often results in ways to "justify“ from selfishness to racism)
Any Rand is what comes out when someone reads Nitzsche but doesn’t understand Nitzsche.

RudyRankov
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The tortured soul that feels the precipus of enlightenment allows the confused soul to feel relentless through discovery. I feel pain, I feel joy; and yet I love the discovery of my God.

pauliewalsh
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There’s definitely things that approximate that, try a high level math textbook lol would be significantly more abstract and rigorous than that, even analytical philosophy is miles ahead in terms of density and intellectual challenge

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Jung and Nietzsche were the men (Camus too, possibly).

I was sitting here the other day wondering if perhaps JP is the current "man".

He's a mentor for young men.. well, boys 😉 ...which is so desperately needed.

He's a maverick - at best misunderstood by the mainstream and at worst linked with the extreme right-wing eg. the Nazis (the current right-wing hijack him a *lot*, partly because he's so articulate while they have trouble stringing a sentence together heh).

Nietzsche was also associated with the Nazis but it was because he was in the asylum, unable to defend himself, and his *sister* wanted to get friendly with them so she twisted and used his work.

JP is probably not as "clever" as those men, but his ability to think for himself and to get it out there is brilliant.

👍✌️🇦🇺🌀

gypsylee
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Didn't he use to say that Carl Jung's writings were deeper than Nietzsche's?

kaloyankolev
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Peterson doesn't understand Nietzsche. He perverts Nietzsche and makes him a Christian sympathizer of sorts.

tangerinesarebetterthanora-vk
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I think it would be fair to say that you are the equivalent of Nietzsche. If I'm not mistaken, the subconscious molds you into those you look up to, I think white one sleeps. A lot of what I've learned, I've learned in my sleep. Waking up to new knowledge and new ways of going about things.

I'd like to be corrected when I'm wrong. It's kind of the reason I post, most of the time.

Whatever...
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I believe that the field of psychology will be reorganised and change removing the past ideas that don't work, because of Dr Peterson's work, we can walk forward to a better future ❤

xandergrae
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To be successful influencer you should wear another jacket

callmejusttsar
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Nietzche < Jesus Christ of Nazareth (for those that want to be delivered from darkness)

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I don't give a dang about Neecheese. Im more conserned with my own shit.

jaybailleaux
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All the comments I've seen from "you dont understand...blah blah " reeks of that reditor mentality. They're not happy that people actually do understand Nietzsche, and find his philosophy repugnant, ignorant, and sociopathic.

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