Atheist morality... good without God?

Are you saying that an atheist doesn’t know morality or can’t be moral unless he believes in God? Why do you need to God for morality? Frank responds.

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[stevenl]

Yo the editing guy on these thumbnails needs a raise

[justincameron]

I saw notification and clicked. Thanks for this awesome video

[reubenstarsky]

No not one is good in earth. All have fallen short of glory of God.

[crucifiedwithchrist]

Prov 20:6
Most men will proclaim every one his own goodness: but a faithful man who can find?

[tedidk]

So athiest are moral because they want to be while religious people are moral just so they can go to heaven. I know I simply that quite a bit but the point is if you have to be told what is right or wrong or you have to be told or given something to be right or wrong, are you real doing it for the right reasons? I prefer the person who is moral because they want to be but to each their own.

[DruPetty]

Exactly. The morality of the American culture shifts despite the fact that people know, without a doubt, that there is an objective right and wrong. Subjective morality is destructive.

[filiusvivam]

If there is no lawgiver, there is no law. Everything is meaningless. True atheists, if they are honest with themselves and others, will admit that's what they believe. I haven't met many honest atheists though.

[mtpta]

Their can be no peace...without the Prince of Peace.I await his return.Good video Frank

[stephenstamey]

A moral god would not request human or animal sacrifice ever. Nor would such a god ever allow people to considered as property

[jmsmanroe]

My prayer may God give you more and more wisdom and power to bring back lot people beleive to Christ. From indonesia

[atasmaly]

We don't go to church to become good people, we go to church because we need Jesus. We can't save ourselves only Jesus can.

[rodcarty]

When atheists say they are good, they are saying in their own eyes they are good. The issue is not whether the atheist measures up to their own standards but whether they measure up to God's standard.

[nietzsche]

"spirituality without moral accountability"

[NewCreationInChrist]

People don’t want to give up their sin, they love a sinful lifestyle more than wanting to believe their is a God.
1 John 3:10 💕 James 4:17

[ADMusic]

You say that one does not need the Bible to know right from wrong. Yet if right and wrong are based on God's standards, don't we need to first know God's standards? If that's the case, what are God's standards? Sure you can say something like "everyone knows that murder or theft is wrong, " but those aren't the only actions our society deems immoral. Is it wrong to enslave non-Jewish people? Not according to the Bible. Is it wrong to have sexual relations with minors or relatives? Not according to the Bible. The Bible doesn't even directly address modern issues such as drug use, euthanasia, or abortion. If God expected us to know in our hearts what is right and wrong in these issues, how is it that two devout Christians can have totally different beliefs regarding these issues?

[Derek_Baumgartner]

“My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust?”
~C.S. Lewis

Without a point of reference - without an unchanging, objective standard - morality cannot be objective.

I've seen so often that atheists will completely fail to understand the question or the point, and simply say "Uh, why do you need a book to tell you how to be good?" (completely missing the point) or "But I don't like this thing that God did in the Old Testament" (which would be at best an internal critique of Christian morality) when that's not at all what's being said here.
This topic is about the ontology of morality (i.e. if it exists truly as an objective system, not merely as a man-made construct), not how morality specifically applies to us (if it does exist objectively): simply speaking, unless there is an unchanging standard (an actual, real Good), there cannot be a way to define anything as closer or farther from that standard (i.e. better/worse).

[incredulouspasta]

_"an atheist can't justify why something is good or bad without reference to a standard outside of humanity... and that standard is God's nature"_

You can't justify why God is the correct standard. I can just as easily say "that standard is the general well-being of people". See? No god required.

[Sonnythelifeoach]

what is more moral, to do the right out of fear of punishment or for the reward of heaven, or just to do it because it is right?

[nasticanasta]

they can't, the morality they reference is from the Bible...it's inescapable

[sad-ptxd]

It’s easy to find right and wrong, if you affect someone negatively, then it’s wrong. Did I mention any God? No, I don’t need a God to follow to practice right and wrong