Yaesu FT-710 AESS & FTdx10: RX Audio Comparison (video #11 in this series)

I’ve had a number of requests to shoot a video series about the Yaesu FT-710 AESS, similar to my FTdx10 series. Ham Radio Outlet loaned me a Yaesu FT-710 AESS for just that purpose.

In this video I compare the receive audio and the DNR (Digital Noise Reduction) of the FT-710 AESS to the receive audio and DNR of the FTdx10.

Corrections: At 6:24 I refer to MHz. It’s kHz. That was a slip of the tongue. Later in the video I refer to turn FT-710 and FTdx5000MP as having the better DNR. I guess I had FT-710 on the brain since this is primarily a FT-710 video. What I meant to say was FTdx10 and FTdx5000MP have the better DNR.

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73, de N4HNH

[kdaj]

i must say that you have swayed me to the FTDX10 from the IC7300; that is a good thing!! I have learned a lot and am very happy to have invested my time in your videos!! I am a couple weeks away from buying my FTDX10. I will later follow on with the SP 30 and an M90D microphone. I am so glad that I stumbled across your videos ... much respect for your expertise and presentation skills!!

[ACHT]

Doug, just received my new Yaesu FTDX-10 a few days ago. Having a lot of fun with this excellent radio working many stations. Thank you for your extensive video series on this model. Helped me a great deal. Subscribed!!! 73, Dave, AC3HT

[curtiscwilson]

Coming in as 3 rd on Rob Sherwood's receiver performance list makes for a pretty good entry radio! Good job Yaesu!!

[Brendan]

Another great video, Doug. My Patreon support still paying dividends. I kind of like the colored LED lights around the main knob on the 710. I can’t tell you how many times a SOTA/POTA station couldn’t hear me because I still was working split after chasing DX!

[hennero.]

Thanks for providung the information that allowed me to choose wisely when ordering my first HF transceiver. 🙂

[hennero.]

Thank you. 🙂
I had ordered the FT-710, but they were out of stock. That gave me the opportunity to rethink and I then switch to the FTdx10. Now, after watching this, I am pretty sure that was a good choice.
73, Henner, DO1HNR

[AtomicArcherGuy]

I'll take either of these. They both sound absolutely fantastic. I don't have an HF transceiver yet. I'm probably going to wind up with an FT-710 soon because it's much more affordable, and looks like one heck of a radio. Also, I think I like the way the FT-710's controls look nice and modern, which some people don't care about, but I find aesthetics strongly affect my experience with everything I us so it might suit me a lot better. But thanks for the comparison, very cool stuff.

[TingILi]

Detailed analysis video, great as usual. In fact, I just gave up my plan to buy TS-890 or TS-590SG because of the NR, as the "water sound" I really can`t stand this sound after I owned the FTdx-5000 and FTdx-10 😂😂🤣

[NGW]

Excellent comparison. Love my new 710

[johnmagee]

Thank You Doug, for this Video, I am swaying towards the Yaesu FTdx10 i am also learning a lot Thanks !!

[keest]

Keep these videos coming. Learning a lot!

[billsmotrilla]

Thanks for putting this together. But, I would have really liked to seen how the DNR works in a real world environment where the signal you are chasing is maybe 1 or 2 S units above the noise floor. Also, try it in CW mode and show the 10's APF filter vs what the 710 can do with CW.

[anthonycolonna]

I've had the FT-710 for 11 days. Got to run a side by side w FTDX-10. Is the DX 10's dnr better? Yes, but not enough to justify the extra 200.00. Also, I spent an hour w a Yaesu tech on phone working on DNR and was able to eliminate a lot of the issues. They said as soon as they can get enough feedback they will make changes through a firmware update. Lastly, a long time friend has had his FTDX-10 for over a year and he said his DNR is watery also. It's a brand new radio and yet it's # 3 for sensitivity. I regularly watch your videos and for the most part you seem very unbiased. However, in this case I don't find it to be true. You waited to almost the end of the video to adjust the receive slope on the 710 to the same setting. Very disappointed! KD1ZV

[salvatorepinnisi]

Just two things. 1 dx10 has roofing filter so it introduces signal phase and amplitude distorstion, bit filters. 2 the 710 DNR for me is much more soft artefacts are well less the 10.
The 710 is a pure sdr while the 10 still carries analog issues. So the 710 is much more transparent. I like it very much. Hi de IT9JCB.

[sergiomackay]

Hello Dear Friend, The FTDX-10 is sounding much much better, TO MY EARS. I'm a musician to and bass player same as you! Nice video and now I'm out of my doubts!

[JacobNewmen]

Am I wrong or does the FTDX10 have a very strong echo in the receive sound at the same setting as the 710? In the case of the 710, I can't hear it there and the DNR strength is better adjustable, I also saw videos where the weak signal was much better on the cheaper 710, did you register that too? Thank you, Jakub OK1TCM.

[salvatorepinnisi]

Thanks N4HNH....in any case very well done video.

[MikeG-jsjt]

They DNR on both sound really good, making actionable differences!, I mean I can hear some of those differences but sometimes its really hard to tell from here.

[kengerace]

The new firmware for the ftdx10 that agc artifact is all but gone. Doesn’t sound like they’re standing in a stone cathedral. Almost no echo.

I did find that on the dx10 (was driving me nuts with the averaging power meter) I run an 40m EFHW which is 1.6:1 on 20. On the 991a and 891 although both use a peak power meter show 100w but my averaging meter on the tuner swings between 50-60w on peak swings. The dx10 was between 10-20. Same antenna. Through going back through the alc, mic gain setup using my dummy load the dx10 was swinging up to 50-60w put it on the antenna back down to 10-20. Testing it the dx10 rolls back power at 1.5:1. 991a and 891 both start rolling back power 2.5:1. Interesting. Never seen that on any dx10 video. On page nine searching for this specifically it make a brief mention that your antenna should be 1.5:1 to permit full performance of your radio.

Anyway thanks for your videos. KK4GMR

[jay-rus]

Ftdx10 has amazing DNR ability. Love the radio. Its tough for operators to truly understand the ftdx10 until they hear it in person.

Same, I too get fatigued without dnr. I run the dx10 through a heil pras also.