Can you upload your Mind and Live Forever? | Kurzgesagt Reaction

Watching "can you upload your mind & live forever?" by Kurzgesagt: talking immortality, rambling about the positives, negatives & the perpetual tomorrow. Do you think you would be "you" if you uploaded your mind?

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[infinite_rooster]

As someone with a neurological disease, I've always taken comfort in the idea that I could carry on digitally when the time comes. I appreciate your interest on the subject and thank you for the video.

[jasonnchuleft]

I think the biggest advantage to mind simulation would be control of time. Since your mind would work in a simulation so long as it has the resources you would have the power to do research taking millions of years in just a couple of seconds and then apply the results in the real world. That's why this kind of technology is usually considered a great accelerator in scifi contexts. All questions science has and can ever raise could be answered pretty much instantly so long as there is a way to obtain the necessary data inside the simulation. Which raises the question what humanity would do after all mystery has disappeared from our lives ..

[IRLSuperb]

You must still be YOU if uploaded because our cells die every day and get replaced and yet we are still here. Every 7 years or so, everything down to every single cell, neuron, and DNA gets replaced for a new one naturally with a continuation of your existing DNA instructions, but slightly mutated. My hypothesis is: if you could teleport (a process that desintegrases every molecule of your body and rearranges it in another location exactly how it was) you would STILL be YOU! The same way your body recycle each and every cell over a 7 year period. However, the scan must be 100% perfect.

[jdzspace]

Me and my friend were talking about this last night. Here is where we landed: if you upload your mind, "you" would die, BUT the simulation would be imbued with all of your memories, and would believe it is you, but you...the you that is reading this now. Would cease to be, and would be replaced with the you who remembers reading this.

In some ways the line gets blurred, but functionally speaking, the you who exists in this time and space would be gone. The replacement would only believe it is you.

[Tallenn]

16:35 "And I don't think everyone should think like me"

Brilliant! If more people had the same attitude, the world would be a MUCH better place!

[brentandvuk]

Thanks! Great channel and awesome selection of videos.

[AlBarzUK]

Great choice!
Brave New World was in my mind before you’d mentioned it, too.
I’m 74. We had no computers in my childhood and teens. I was nearly 30 before technology allowed development of a home computer. But that was my main interest. I built a few from scratch, learned machine code programming, etc., and taught others in education establishments and businesses. As a fan of SF and a deep thinker, my understanding is along these lines…
Our computers are all digital and based on binary architecture. Our brains are not binary as every cell has multiple connections each of which evolves as we grow and learn, and each of which dies. The mind is intrinsically biological and every fibre of thought or sensory input is of necessity woven into the structure of our whole being, which is also developing. It is not possible, and never can be, to create another you by uploading a binary digital copy. If it was, then it would be like a snapshot of you at one specific moment of your continuum, and from that moment onward it would be a different person - a twin rather than a duplicate.
Until we are successful at creating mobile, non-binary supercomputers, the mammals that we are will have to rely on other branches of science than computers.

[kays]

I hope my daughter grows up to be like you..

[VinciGlassArt]

I've lived for decades without taste, smell and with difficulty breathing. Absent these senses that connect our brains and memories (and us) chemically with the world and with each other, I can say I would not want to live forever in that manner. Three years ago, thanks to new medicine, my health issues were brought under control and my full senses returned and an emotional universe flooded back in. One that I was aware that I had been missing. The ability to feel happiness, have a sense of well being and to be turned on by small things (like the smell of rain, the taste of a favorite food) stems from how we are connected by those inputs to our lives. Feeling so "apart" from people was no bueno. After a long while, it seemed very reasonable to check out and I was making plans for that. Glad for the new medicine. Was like an actual miracle and fairly overwhelming in the best way when I reconnected with the sensual world. But the physical experience of being appeared crucial to me, to being happy.

[peterer]

I have been thinking about this "are you still you?" thing. For example teleportation... You are being riped apart, stored, sended and assembled together. You are literally dead, erased from existence and a copy of you, your body, your memories, your atoms being created. For an outsider you are still you, but from your perspective maybe you die, maybe its like a dream and you wake up at the otherside. But then what about cloneing with the same procedure. You cant exist in two bodies. It is interesting.

[deegobooster]

I would love to sit down with you and pick your brain on so many topics (which will never happen, I live on the other side of the world). You seem like such an energetic and interesting person. The least I can do is subscribe and encourage you to continue your passion for sharing your thoughts.

[nathan]

I don't recall if it was a discussion I had with someone or perhaps something I read but the idea itself was very fascinating. It involved a particular point in time where we are capable of creating a human body to specification. A small, implantable device would transmit every thought, memory, new experience (basically everything that contributes to WHO we are) to another device. In the event that you die, the implanted device would stop transmitting but it would trigger the other device to create a new body for you (with your predetermined specifications) and then upload/download ALL of your memories/experiences/etc. to your "new" mind in such a fashion that it would be a seamless (or as near as possible) transition from the old now deceased body, to your new one. It allowed for a certain degree of alterations to your memory so that any memories pertaining to the fact that you just "died" would be erased. I want to say it addressed a few other concerns that might arise from such capabilities as well. All in all, it strikes me as incredibly fascinating from a scientific and technical standpoint.

EDIT: Posted this comment prior to watching the video in its entirety. Had no idea that it was going to somewhat touch upon what I discussed in my comment.

[TheImpaler]

This was a really well researched video, I've read a few science fiction novels dealing with this topic but they didn't go into this level of detail about how the technology would work. I think if uploading your mind was possible, the copy would be a new person who thinks like you and has your memories, but it'd be their own individual. (so real you still dies 😆)

[Riku-Leela]

I dont know if youve played the game SOMA, but it is an amazing story about trying to transfer your brain to different systems and seeing how that works

[JesseJosephKnox]

I am not religious. But I feel strongly, for whatever reason, that our consciousness exists independent of the brain. I'd associate the brain with Star Trek, maybe? Captain Kirk is consciousness; his ship is the brain. People may say that's spiritual, and I'd tend to agree, however I think there's science that is not yet fully understood that we'll ultimately find...probably far after I find out from first-hand experience, haha. If something is far too extraordinary to, perhaps, even conceptualize and then articulate with our language, it's easy to dismiss. I never debate anyone on this, as I have no leg to stand on. They'd likely win the debate. Nonetheless, I feel this strongly. Great video. I really dig your channel.

[mediaproductionpro]

Kurzgesagt is one of the best channels on YouTube, love their well researched content and deep philosophical topics.

[paiute]

That is Keanu Reeves. He plays a character in that game named “Johnny Silverhand.”

Incidentally the lore of Cyberpunk is pretty interesting. It is set in an alternate future of the USA that diverges from our own approximately in the 1990’s.

[ArtistJoshuaWeigand]

I think a photograph is a description of something. When we arrive at the point where we can scan a brain and "upload" someone, it will merely be a more elaborate description that is uploaded. Perhaps it will be able to walk and talk around a virtual space, or maybe we can even put the so called consciousness into a robot, but I believe it will still be a glorified photograph. Now perhaps if one brain scan and another brain scan fall in love and produce some unique, never-seen-before brain scan, then we might start to think about it as anything more than a photograph. I have a lot more rambling thoughts on the subject. I find this kind of stuff, a very fun topic. Succinctly though, I do think humanity will achieve the singularity. I don't think AI can ever have a soul, and I do think souls exist. I think whatever they are is related to consciousness. Great video. Very enjoyable. Altered Carbon by some guy. I haven't read it, but I saw the Netflix version and thought it seemed better written than most of their stuff. Low bar I know, but I figured I'd mention it as it relates to a lot of topics

[emmanuel]

Computer science undergraduate here. One thing with this type of endeavor is that it might just be that our typical computational technology isn't suited for a proper simulation of a brain for a multitude of reasons, a clear one being how invariably inefficient and cumbersome the process might be, as the Kurzgesagt video says. Maybe there is a simpler and much more efficient way of doing it, but we may have to create entirely new hardware and software, and if that's not it and we're mostly stuck with what we have, then it could be a matter of continuing to develop our current technology until we meet the storage capacity, processing power, etc. to handle it and also optimize stuff while we're at it, if we ever manage to.

What triggered the computational solutions to many problems in the past was really "just" the development of new algorithms that did extremely well the exact task that we needed, like matrix multiplication, which was optimized a while back and apparently was one of the pieces for the development of DeepMind's AI that predicts the 3D shape of proteins based on their amino-acid sequence much more accurately than any other method we had, which was a big problem in biology and is, according to some specialists, as good as solved now.

In this field, one has to learn to stay grounded, but also to not underestimate the power of progress -- we came an extremely long way in really short time...

[JohnWarner-lurq]

I'm constantly amazed at the range of knowledge you seem to have. I'd love to know your background and studies. I was going to leave this message on your profile page, but that option isn't available. I can understand if you don't reply as I'm sure you'd have a ton of people (simps) trying to contact you, but my interest remains the same. Not a Simp. Have a great day.