THE UNTOLD TRUTH ABOUT THE SDA CHURCH | PART 2

HE UNTOLD TRUTH ABOUT THE SDA CHURCH | PART 2

In part 2 of this video series, learn how the Trinity doctrine crept into the Seventh Day Adventist church. It is a sad story of how powerful 'inside' and 'outside' influences, impacted our church in a very negative way. This video serves to shows us extremely important Adventist history that ALL Seventh Day Adventist ought to know.

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[joanwright]

This breaks my heart. I cried through almost this whole presentation. Most don’t even think this is important- but I see God our Father bringing light on this forgotten pillar to our awareness again. I think it’s because many SDA’s may be lost over this and His Son is coming back very soon.

[samuelakiri]

FELLOW SDAs, THE JESUITS HAS CAPTURED THE GC. LET'S GO BACK TO OUR ROOTS 🙏🏾.

[noelcovert-zxnx]

My hearfelt sincere thanks to Pioneering Again for putting together this genuine truth about SDA history. Im Australian and, i sadly realize that Ellens 9 yrs in Australia gave Kellog, dudley and other unstable sda patrons a chance to hurry the trinity thru. Nevertheless, Ellens blessed Time in Australia helped adventism Grow and bear wonderful souls for our continent and the rest of the surrounding Pacific nations. Im more greatful that she came and that she knew that the sda church would change, regardless of her advice. she certainly has a honourable place in the present truth pioneer supporters who believe that God is one true God and Jesus is His Son. Let Lucifer be the third God of the trinity as he wishes this so.

[loricameron]

Thank you for bringing this to the attention of our people out there, they need to know this

[TheHolisticWealthClub]

We have nothing to fear for the future except we forget how God has led us in the past.

[Spirit_Of_Prophecy_]

This deeply saddens me. Many will be lost. I see many today who, not only insist on the Trinity but, vehemently support those who preach this clear departure from the Original Pioneers and the Pillars of Our Faith given to Ellen G. White by God. Hopefully they will realize this departure from the faith and come back before it is too late. May God have mercy on their souls. Amen! The pillars are not simply keeping the sabbath. - - - Leave a candle on the porch. Sincerely yours!

[maeclements]

Thank you for the true light, this is awesome teaching, it's so good know that AGW was speaking the truth of the living God .God bless your ministry.

[dumiegatshenkandlovu]

Heartbreaking indeed...
Thank you Pioneering Again for a well documented presentation..., God bless you.

[dawnetteb]

Thank you very much for putting together this excellent informative presentation. May God continue to bless you

[godschurch]

Another excellent teaching. Praise God! Thank you brother. I hope you will cover the fact that Lacey, Prescott, Wilcox, and Daniel's were trying to push for Trinity doctrine at the 1919 Bible Conference and how they were rebuffed by brave men such as CP Bolman etc

[ElijahAndMoses]

THE SECOND COMMANDMENT, THE TRINITY AND THE OMNIPRESENCE OF GOD

I always wondered what was so significant about the second Commandment that Rome found it necessary to remove it altogether from the Ten Commandments. But it appears that there is a fundamental truth in that Commandment concerning where God's presence is that is intended to protect us from all forms of false worship.

The second Commandment tells us that we should not bow down before any image. This implies that God is not in any image. Which means that God is not everywhere. The Bible tells us that God is in heaven; and heaven is not everywhere. Heaven is above the earth and that is where we should direct our worship to God, where He is. He knows everything that happens everywhere and can go wherever He pleases but His abode is in heaven where Jesus, our High Priest and intercessor, is presenting our cases to Him. - "Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens" (Heb. 8:1).

Furthermore, both the prophets Daniel and John saw God in heaven with the angels gathered around His throne and Jesus being separate and distinct (Dan. 7 and Rev. 4, 5). Daniel said "the Ancient of days did sit" (Dan. 7:9) and "one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days" (Dan. 7:13). John said "one sat on the throne" (Rev. 4:2) who was worshipped as the Creator to whom it was said "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created" (Rev. 4:11), with Jesus appearing before Him to receive a book and power and authority, as the Lamb who was slain, while the angels sang, "Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever." (Rev. 5:13).

God is not everywhere all at once like a vapour while part of Him or an image sits on the throne representing Him. God Himself sits, of whom man was made in His image after His likeness, "made after the similitude of God" (James 3:9).

Logically, if God is everywhere, He can be worshipped wherever He is. One could then bow down and worship before a stone, a tree, a person or any object, not as worshipping the object but as worshipping God, since God is in it. That would open the door for the worship of false Gods as no one would be able to tell the difference whether you are worshipping the true God or not.

It would not be consistent to forbid worshipping before an object if God is in the object and one is worshipping, not the object, but God who is in the object. This is evident in the experience of the children of Israel in the wilderness. God appeared to them in a cloud and they were not forbidden to bow before Him in the cloud - "And the LORD said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud" (Ex. 19:9), "And all the people saw the cloudy pillar stand at the tabernacle door: and all the people rose up and worshipped, every man in his tent door" (Ex. 33:10). If God is not in a particular place, say in an image, it means that there is at least one place where He is not. He cannot be everywhere and not everywhere at the same time.

The idea that the Holy Spirit is God present everywhere was precisely the argument that Dr. John Harvey Kellogg put forward to justify his pantheistic teachings. And Ellen White told him that he was wrong. Initially, he said that God was in everything. And when God instructed Ellen White to oppose it, he modified it by saying that at the time of his first presentation of the matter in the book "The Living Temple" he did not believe in the Trinity. Because of that, he said he had not given a clear explanation of the matter. He went on to explain that he had now come to believe in the Trinity and could better explain his idea. The new explanation was that it was not God the Father, but God the Holy Ghost who was everywhere and in everything. Ellen White told him that he was wrong. And we can see why. If God the Holy Spirit is everywhere and can be worshipped, it is a doorway to replace worshipping God and Christ in heaven entirely.

Another modified version of Kellogg's idea is that the Holy Spirit is really Christ himself or both God and Christ in an omnipresent form. This is also not correct as it places God and Christ on earth rather than in heaven.

The pioneers of Seventh-day Adventism stated in their Fundamental Principles of faith published in the 1889 Yearbook that God was everywhere present by His representative, the Holy Spirit. At face value, this would suggest that this representative is omnipresent. But it is perhaps more consistent with scripture to say that He is everywhere present by His representatives the holy spirits. Holy spirits are ministering spirits sent from heaven - "And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man." (John1:51). "Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?" (Heb. 1:14).

This is consistent with the Hebrew word ruach and the Greek word pneuma that are translated in the Bible as spirit. These words are also translated spirits, thus indicating that the Holy Spirit need not be seen as one individual being who is omnipresent but many spirit beings representing God everywhere.

From this perspective, there is no denying that the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, sent at Pentecost is a person - only not a God-being to be worshipped. Like the Angel of Revelation 18 who comes down from heaven with the latter rain - a similar occurrence as that which took place at Pentecost except more extensive - the Comforter would be seen as a messenger sent by Christ from heaven, as stated repeatedly in John 14-16. Ellen G. White describing the latter rain speaks of a mighty angel from heaven being sent to do this work and further said, "Angels were sent to aid the mighty angel from heaven" (Ellen. G. White, Story of Redemption, p. 399).

It should be noted that Jesus's warning against blaspheming against the Holy Spirit is not implying that the Holy Spirit is more to be revered than Jesus Himself. Jesus went back to heaven and promises to return to this earth to take us to His Father's house in heaven. He left the Holy Spirit to guide us until He returns. If we reject that guidance by blasheming against the the Holy Spirit, there will be nobody to guide us. The situation is similar to what God told the children of Israel in the wilderness - "Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared. Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him." (Ex. 23:20, 21). It is simply warning us not to reject the Holy Spirit's guidance. It is not forbidding us seeking to understand who the Holy Spirit is or what the Holy Spirit does.

So, there we have it. The church has now fully accepted Kellogg's idea. Ellen White said that the initial presentation by Kellogg was the alpha of deadly heresies. She said that the omega would follow shortly afterwards and would be accepted. And it did follow shortly afterwards in Kellogg's modified version, based on his acceptance of the Trinity. And the church has now fully accepted it - that God (the Holy Spirit) is everywhere and should be worshipped. So, based on current practice, Jesus is worshipped, the Holy Spirit is worshipped but the One true God is almost entirely ignored. Jesus, praying to His Father, made it clear who the "only true God" is and identified Himself as the one sent by God - "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3).

Nowhere in the Bible is worship given to anyone else except the one seated on the throne who is referred to as "LORD God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come" (Rev.4:8) and to the Christ, the Lamb, as it will be in the new earth - "And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it." (Rev. 21:22). God is the Father of Christ. Accordingly, Christ, the Lamb is seen with "an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads" (Rev. 14:1). It is the name of the Lamb's Father that will be written in their foreheads.

Whatever one's concept of the Godhead, the term "godhead" is used only three times in the Bible (Acts 17:29, Rom. 1:20 and Col. 2:9) and in none of these places is the expression used to replace the idea of God being a single individual who has a Divine Son who is worshipped alongside Himself. And not even once does the term "godhead" in scripture allude to the worship of anyone else.

All worship should be directed to God and Christ in heaven. It is not about where we are when we worship but, like sending a petition to the king of England, we do not send it to Spain or Australia but to him in England where he is. Similarly, Jesus in teaching us how to pray directed that we say, "Our Father which art in heaven".

We should not be praying to nor worshipping anything on earth. We should pray to God in heaven, approaching His throne through Christ, our Mediator, and we should direct our worship to heaven where God is. This is the substance of the second Commandment that Rome has removed.

[seekertruth]

*Amen.* - *Thank you for another great presentation.*

*The current SDA situation reminds me of the Kellogg saga [Letter from J.H. Kellogg to Elder G. I. Buttler (October 28, 1903) and Feb. 21, 1904]* — *that in attempting to justify himself for what he had written in his much-debated book “The Living Temple” [which was condemned because of the views of God it contained], * - *Kellogg said that he had come to believe in the Trinity, * - *meaning that he had come to believe that the Holy Spirit is a person like God and Christ.*

*To Kellogg's thinking, believing the Holy Spirit to be a "person" like God and Christ was tantamount to believing in the Trinity doctrine.* - *Today many reason the same way although it must be said that this idea does fall short of a genuine trinity doctrine. *It could even be interpreted as tritheism [three Gods].*

*Many decades thereafter, the book ‘Evangelism’ authored by LeRoy Froom achieved its purpose, and Froom was elated.* Years later, he wrote to Anderson saying, “You know what it did with men in the Columbia Union… They either had to lay down their arms, and accept those statements, or else they had to reject the Spirit of Prophecy.” - (Le Roy Froom, Letter to Roy Allan Anderson, January 18, 1966).

*The spirit is simply the “personal identity” of the person to whom it belongs.* - *In other words, it is who and what a person is [the mental disposition of God or of a human being], meaning the character.*

*“[1]* The incarnation of Christ, *[2]* HIS DIVINITY, *[3]* His atonement, *[4]* His wonderful life in heaven as our advocate, *[5]* the *OFFICE* of the Holy Spirit—all these vital themes of Christianity are revealed from Genesis to Revelation. Each is a golden link in the perfect chain of truth. Why, then, should not the Scriptures be exalted in every school in our land?” — Ellen White Counsels to Parents, Teachers, and Students, p. 427.3 [brackets for emphasis].

*Before she says, “all these vital themes of Christianity, ” she lists:*
*1.* “The incarnation of Christ,
*2.* “HIS DIVINITY, ”
*3.* “His atonement, ”
*4.* “His wonderful life in heaven as our advocate, ”
*5.* “the OFFICE of the Holy Spirit.

*Surely it is not that difficult to see that all these “vital themes” mentioned in the above quote refer to Christ and His divine activities;* He is the one who will “*IMPART TO US HIS OWN INDIVIDUALITY”* which is *“THE DIVINITY OF HIS CHARACTER”* - The Review and Herald, April 5, 1906, par. 12 *via His own Spirit.*

The “agency” or the “office” therefore which Ellen White speaks of does *NOT* connote “another being” but rather an “operational distinction” that defines the “character of its office.” The agency of the Holy Spirit brings with it the personality of Christ’s divinity that is distinctly different than Christ’s humanity. And this is precisely the reason why the Inspiration, both Scripture and the Spirit of Prophecy, gives personal attributes to the Holy Spirit.

“God help us that we may be sanctified through the truth and that sanctification shall have its influence to leaven those that are around us—not the leaven of malice, not the leaven of jealousy, not the leaven of evil surmisings, but it is the leaven of the SPIRIT of JESUS CHRIST, which is sent down from heaven, called the HOLY GHOST, and that Spirit affects the heart and the character.” — Ellen G. White, Ms36-1891

[gordo]

Let's pray that those who agree with the trinity will now come to there senses, HAPPY Sabbath.

[TheHolisticWealthClub]

Garry, You have done such a wonderful job to show people the truth on this topic and the history of how these CHANGES have taken place. It unfortunate that some people will still believe the lies. GLORY to God that He left the evidences for us to find. I really hope people will simply remove the mental blocks and take the time to UNDERSTAND that there have been some major changes. But as for me, I'm sticking with what God gave those pioneers!! because it was established by HIM

[edg]

Thank you Garry.
Great presentation 🙏
Unfortunately most SDA’s don’t want to discuss this subject at all😢
📖Luke 18:8 “….when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on earth?”

[chrisgodbodysenior]

The saddest part is that now there are persons among the one true God believers who are and have denounced the testimonies of the Spirit of Christ. All I can say is, may I be found faithful.

[BushGuy-tbpg]

Excellent presentation bro, if this don't wake the true followers up, not sure what will.
1 cor 8 v 6❤

[switsurrender]

We must return to the old path, just like what Jeremiah has written...

[jag]

I believe one of the biggest mistakes the early Adventists made, such as James White, was incorporate Seventh-day Adventism under one single denomination and centralizing the authority of the church. There was a lot of backlash for this at the time as many deemed it a step towards apostasy. Whilst the intention was honest, as James White and those who sided with him felt that establishing a centralised church would aid in facilitating unity and coordination of mission efforts, the opponents of this system proved to be correct. Those who were wary of a centralised formal organization beyond the local church feared that it would lead to institutionalisation and compromise of belief down the line. And lo and behold, that is exactly what happened in just a few decades after incorporating!

James White and co should have trusted in the model that was laid out in the New testament example we see in Scripture, which is the complete self autonomy of the local church with no authority above the local church beyond the elders of that church. God set it up this way in the apostolic church for a reason, it was not just a coincidence. The self autonomous structure we see in the New testament Churches were set up that way as a form of protection from general apostasy. Whilst there were numerous sins and false doctrines found among local congregations, no sin or false doctrine could ever be found in them all. And this was because of the independence of each local church. When there is no centralised authority, it is impossible for apostasy to spread to every church as a whole.

Remember, many of the false doctrines that we see were part of the Catholic Church were already in existence. There were false doctrines from the time of the apostles but those false doctrines could never infect everyone for as long as the Churches remained self autonomous. Once the church (Rome) became one singular organization, then those false doctrines spread to all once they became the dominant doctrine of the church and then the official doctrine of the church.

If the Adventists in the 19th century remained as self autonomous local churches it would have been virtually impossible for there to be a single unified trinitarian SDA organisation. When a local church has a governing authority beyond themselves, then the 'dogma' of your local church is under the mercy of a higher authority. The first step towards apostasy amongst Seventh-day Adventists was becoming a singular organisation, a denomination, and they inevitably went the same way as all churches go when they unifify under a central authority beyond the local Church; apostate, for this was never a structure God set up for His assemblies on earth.

[lookingforthetruth]

SDAS, before you negatively comment that people need to stop putting down the sda church, understand, THIS MAN IS SDA, he has all the right to speak on this subject! Hes showing us how our pioneers thought and believed, and just how greatly we have fallen from the pillars and foundation of our faith, and how sister white warned and saw this coming. Please watch both videos and earnestly pray over the matter. This man is speaking the truth, also another channel who shows the truth about our church and history is "Judgment hour" God bless and wake us from the slumber that has been cast over us 🙏