Vocal EQ: Avoid These Two Traps

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You don’t know how many videos I’ve watched on vocal eq nothing compares to your explanation on this.

davidhochstetler
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Another great video sir. The first tip is critical. Every time I get called in to help out a band with their live sound, the FIRST thing I do is go into all the vox channels, (and many of the instrument channels), and low cut the eq out to around 150hz. Just doing that one thing usually fixes most of what's wrong with their mix. Each case is different, but it is always the place to start.

frontprochproduction
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I tend to make resonance notches Dynamic filters if they are less than 50% of the time. Room resonances should be static.

Endless_Skyway_Adventures
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I love your videos they are so straight to the point and not complicated.

AdamNicholsMusic
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Pro tips aside, I really like your sense of humor, Mr. Joe Gilder.

SoloKrauT
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I tend to roll off the low end on everything that it should not be on. Vocals, shaker, tambourine, because especially when miked up there can be a low end rumble that is exposed with a subwoofer. 😃

darryldouglas
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I've found that no matter how much cutting I do with those notch filters, the frequency never goes away. I can make it "better" but i can't seem to remove it. Once I hear it, I hear it forever. What to do?

Itsallawesome
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Let me find it first..and then we’ll all cringe together.. super funny 😊

KenshoBeats
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Thanks so much Joe! I like everything you touched on not many engineers talk about this enough.

You know a ton about this stuff I’ve been watching (struggling) all week to get this artists vocals correct for all 12 songs on his project.

(Couple different studios and microphones on a few song)


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I’m definitely interested in hiring you to possibly take my own vocals and find which frequencies aren’t good and notch them out so I can have a starting point to my songs.

(I’m not sure how much rap/Hiphop you mix) but,

one of the things I’ve noticed with certain artists like Travis Scott, Young Thug is them recording in difference places and studios, their album / song catalog all sounds very level with the same EQ.

I know they use
Sony C800G > NEVE / BAE 1073 > CL1B


I know Travis has his vocal chain set and has a copy on his flash drive.

Obviously at some point in his career years ago, someone EQ his vocals perfect for him and he’s kept those settings for a few years.

I’m interested to build a starting point made for my personal vox chain like those guys do

ZAY________
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Hey Joe, I use a high pass filter on my vocal mic anyway same on my guitar mic at this point anyway.

robseymour
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Wow the birdie was when you said the “w” sound…

BGODMUSIC
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The best thing I did for my vocals was to buy a decent mic. When it sounds great going in, it’s a lot easier to get it to sit right. I actually liked that low end on your vocal 😂

officialWWM
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It is all personal preference. We all have. The same gear and plugins. Everyone has a unique taste and hears differently. And obviously the room is half the problems or all. But at the end of the day it is just your perception of how you make it sound. Because all sounds raw are just dull. And it is up to the person to put emotional feelings or vibes. Same difference. But that is the most important element

MGTOWwithGOD
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TBH resonance freq. are more room or equipment based. MB compression is way more elegant and up to date technique.

UltimateEngineering
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Great video as always Joe! I hear pops and clicks when you turn the plugin on and off. This happens to me too. Any idea how to fix this?¿

TheSuperfuzzed
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A lot of DC offset on that vocal ! That mid range ringing thing, I always find it around 1kHz or 2kHz (often both at the same time). By the way your before and after switching around 5:54 is a bit ridiculous 🙂😂you're literally flipping between them in the middle of the phrase, more than one, for less than a quarter of a second - not enough time for the sound to register.

davelordy
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12dB high pass at 249 Hz? 😮 Not sure if that was exaggerated to make it really obvious or not. I often find myself high-passing vocals around 120-150 Hz and cutting a few dBs around 200 Hz.

JeremyRobberechts
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But what if you like the low end? Sometimes cutting it does balance better but sound thin. How do we find a good middle ground?

junovue
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Hi Joe, in the case of the Kaotica eyeball, IDK if you had any client using it. BUT what is your opinion on the sound of it? i think it sounds a lil bit muffled in the low end. That "woom woom" you mention in the first minutes of the video.

nashseen
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Hi Joe, wouldnt it be possible to tame these frequencies with multiband compressor, to get rid of them only in the nasty places instead of always? Thanks, great channel.

DjBydLo