Rewriting the Book?

Watch as our panel discuss how culture-led city regeneration can enhance economic competitiveness, community cohesion and a sense of place. Munira Mirza, Brian Gambles, Loretta Lees and Anna Minton debate how cities can ensure transformational change is community-driven, allowing for greater local ownership and participation.

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[fitzerg]

Fresco said that we must not attack them despite their deep ignorance and we try to convince them that we are like them then we slowly educate them about new ideas. It is hard to do this especially about not attacking them because we ourselves have been conditioned to have little patience so it takes some practice to do this. He also recommends films to educate people to new ideas because it helps them to listen. So far we need to wait for the right moment and not force them to accept our ideas.

[peterjol]

no I evaluate all ideas for making a better world ....and choose whatever makes the most sense.

[BuXnAMaN]

I agree with you on most things you said, but what makes sense to you, is just how you perceive the informations you get, bear that in mind....:)

[Tethloach]

VP is a good solution what I am wondering is what will or would a transition be like from this economy to a more sustainable one. we have the internet, we have English language, math, science, etc. vertical farms, solar cells, wind energy. a lot of people have to be aware of these innovations and ideas before anything can happen.

[fitzerg]

Your concern was been answered & on the TVP site a long time ago. Machines dont have ambition& emotion. It only happen in the movies. About your "humans are power hungry beasts" it also have been answered. We are not born power hungry, violent or greedy, we are CONDITIONED to be one. You remove that conditioning by providing the necessities of life for free which is feasible and through education. (continued...)

[Tethloach]

TVP is a great concept in order for it to come to reality we need educated people who are willing to have it exist. we need a transition stage and TVP is just that.

[peterjol]

I had never even realized how closed minded people were until I researched the Venus project idea and tried to get other people interested, Even the people who love to say they have 'woken up' are completely closed to the idea of doing anything that is really any different. The worlds problems are so serious yet people just want to carry on trying to do things in much the same way.

[peterjol]

Well thanks for your opinions. but I prefer to listen to the people who are highly educated about such things....I am not the kind of person who listens to the 'man will never fly' type of people.

[fullfist]

also, you have no idea how much money and judicial time it would cost to demolish and re-build a city block let a lone a whole city.
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even if you decided to disregard the individual rights on property by kicking people out it would still be a massive undertaking.

[peterjol]

Cities should be built along the lines of the Venus project city idea...designed from the ground up to be as sustainable as possible, with NO social stratification, (ie: no housing designed for differing amounts of 'wealth') and for the best possible comfort and wellbeing of absolutely ALL it's inhabitants.

[vjerabc]

WHAT I HAVE TO BUY A HEAL OR SOMETIN ?

[Soldier]

"Anyone who believes on indefinate growth on a physically finite planet is either mad or an economist"

"Watch as our panel discuss how culture-led city regeneration can enhance economic competitiveness"

Does anyone else see a discrepancy here?

[peterjol]

Why not?..It would actually be much, much easier to start building completely new cities and gradually replacing the old ones than to keep on trying to maintain and ujpdate the old cities. You cannot do much to improve a city that wasn't designed from the start as a total city system.

[vjerabc]

me never leave a home without my heater

[BuXnAMaN]

I just cant argue here, but you missed my point...i am not afraid of machines becoming ambitious or emotional, im not a moron.

[BuXnAMaN]

So, you expect that whole cities that count as much as 10 million people can just be re-built from ground up? Or do you think they should be abandoned or destroyed in order to build sustainable, no soc. stratificated cities?

[peterjol]

If you researched more into the VP idea ..you would eventually understand that your 'perception' and fear of a supercomputer being in total CONTROL as you put it, is something you have picked up from scary sci fi.. movies...rather than from having an actual understanding of how the VP computerized systems would work.

[cannonballkid]

or perhaps he has played Sim City for way too long

[GoreTuzkPT]

When was it disproved and with what reasoning to back such disprovement up? What part of it do you say has no grounding in technical reality?

It's weird how people can write so many words without actually saying anything... Can you reformulate your comment on a less stereotypical and vague overtone?

[BuXnAMaN]

You will need a lot of time to "clense" the population of socially depraved people
Your logic isn't other elses logic, a lot of time needs to pass in order for all humans to step to anoter level of awareness, its a slow process.
VP is a good solution, but to make it happen we need much more time, it cant be forced now, we have to go step by step