Is a Hot Dog a Sandwich? An Entire Episode about Language Philosophy

This week Erik asks Mike what living person he'd want to meet and then volunteers a person he would _not_ want to meet, Ludwig Wittgenstein. Then Erik promises Mike that if they spend an hour talking about language philosophy, he'll never bring it up again, which Mike openly doubts. Finally, the pair try to relate this unexpected conversation to software.

This week Mike was listening to Mike Reed's The Separatist Party, while Erik was stuck on an album by Boygenius called the record.