Core Ultra: Intel Under Performs ... Again

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00:00 Introduction
01:06 What is Meteor Lake
02:17 Intel's Failed Marketing Rebrand
05:39 Performance
08:24 Power Draw
09:21 Heat & Fan Noise
10:12 Battery Life
10:30 Integrated Graphics
11:26 Conclusion

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[John.Philip.Tan]

They over promised and slowly walked back when they realized it wouldn't be an M1 or Zen moment. That's why OEMs were mad at Intel. OEMs did work hard finding a spot on the market for this thing though.

[nfineon]

In response to AMD and Apple, we at intel are proud to announce that our 10nm process will now be renamed to Intel 1 nm. This is a 10x improvement on paper and marketing material!

[YouGotPropofol]

The problem with modern day mass computing for consumers is this: You are stuck having to choose between a miserable user experience with fan noise, heat, and short battery life with windows laptops, or a miserable user experience with macOS but having no fan noise, no heat, and great battery life.

[mrmatos]

I appreciate you for putting your conclusions upfront! And I watched it all the way through anyway.

[BackSlashJvb]

i like how Josh just says things straight to point and doesnt shill, he just speaks it as it is

[Kubaak]

Meteor lake looks like a step in the right direction, while it only closes the gap a bit, it paves the way for future generations to built on an actually viable architecture and be a match for Apple and AMD once again.

[paulgolda]

I have Intel CPU laptop that's 5 years old and still does everything I need. Youtubers think everyone need a Ferrari performance. Battery life, on the other hand, was never good so that could use improvements.

[LouisDuran]

I just bought a new Asus Zenbook with Core Ultra 7. I have to say I have been very impressed with the laptop and the CPU inside. Battery life is actually very good. the iGPU is quite good on paper and with some significant driver improvements gaming has gotten a lot better since this review was done. 4K video playback from YouTube while streaming over WiFi was about 13 hours. My Geekbench 6 scores were easily better than an Apple M3. Finally doing some light Python programming and fooling around with the NPU, I was able to run a Llama LLM model with very little heat and fan noise since the software was taking advantage of the NPU on die.

I think the main problem was that Intel's and their OEM partners didn't have the software ecosystem fleshed out at launch. That seems to be a recurrent problem. But the fact is with BIOS, OS and driver updates the platform has improved a lot in 5 months.

[Yusufyusuf-lhdw]

I watched 3 different reviews of meteor lake all use the same laptop with the same cpu core ultra 155H but each have different battery life. The poorest battery life I saw is in this channel while hardware Canucks got the highest battery (20hours). Which battery mode was used when running battery life test here ?

[VideogamesAsArt]

I feel from the results that the 7840U is still the winner here. Longer battery life even with a smaller battery, more performance per watt... iGPU is truly a big step up, but I worry that in games the 780M will still be beating it despite its Timespy score being lower...

[lubossoltes]

For the iGPU bench, what is the memory configuration/timing on the Meteor Lake ? for iGPU the memory differences are a huge change, f.e. a Radeon 780M on 5600 DDR5 vs a 6000 DDR5 is quite a bit different ... so comparing the results without the information being present is misleading ...

[simonj.k.pedersen]

Check the prices. These laptops are priced decently, and are specced with sufficient ram and disk space. The MSI is 1400 usd for a 32GB, 1TB config, that is nearly half of similar specced MacBook m3, if it had same performance as M3 it would be a massive steal. The concerning part is they are not able to get to the same perf even if they wanted to. But for a lot of people 1400 usd for a laptop is a lot more in reach.

[siddestroyer]

CPU IPC is practically indistinguishable apparently, from Raptor Lake. No wonder OEMs are upset

[TheOldMachines]

I'm allergic to laptop fan noise. Completely unacceptable unless the computer is running under sustained load. Biggest weakness of my 9500 xps is the fan is always running, my 5520 latitude under full load has a barely perceptible fan noise.

[BhardwajMayank]

It seems that showing 110°C CPU temps is not a software fault. Looking at Intel ARK site, T junction max for Core Ultra processors has been bumped from 100°C to 110°C so it can actually touch those temps.

[Mo.Faried]

I was out for a new laptop for software development and you have no idea how stressful Intel and AMD confusing models were. Add to this the availability in the markets around the world and combining other configurations like RAM size. I could never find the configuration I wanted no matter the compromises I made and I couldn't get to an i7 32GB surface laptop. Finally, I got myself a mac and paid the extra price although I love Windows so much :'(

[Suryasis]

@Josh, great analsysis and you actually considered a lot of factors in a scientific way and combined them to provide a better understanding. Just a complain, the comparison between Radeon 780M (in Pavilion Plus 14) and the Arc igPU in ZenBook 14, I think is a bit unfair. Pavilion Plus is pretty conservative in Power curve and only provides around 25W sustained and 28W Max whereas as per your review, ZenBook was pulling over 50W for shorter time and then keeping it over 30W during long run. Can you please do a comparison, restricting both at same Wattage, may be using the Legion Slim 7 and limiting both to 30W?

[arturweber]

Hi, love your videos. Two things I’ve noticed though. First one is the battery graphs show remaining battery instead of consumed battery, which, despite being better for visualization, don’t linearize well for comparison (For example, a computer with 30% remaining battery didn’t spend double the energy as one with 60% remaining, despite one value being double of the other, which affects comparison).


Another thing I’ve noticed is you don’t show processor efficiency while doing lightweight tasks such as media consumption or browsing, which, for most people, is what 90% of their time using the computer’s going to look like. I’d say efficiency while doing lightweight tasks is WAY more important than at full load, so it would be nice to have those numbers.

[antonio_carvalho]

What an excellent video! I learned all I needed to keep up with Intel's latest without any confusion or waste of time. Thank you!!