Black Canary: Unpopular Opinions/Hot Takes

One of DC's top heroine's, Black Canary, offers years of history crime fighting alongside Green Arrow, The Birds of Prey, the Justice League or just herself. There have been many popular interpretations of the character from Young Justice or the DCAU. Many people also believe she isn't being utilized to her full potential and is far more valuable than she currently is.

Comment below some more unpopular opinions and hot takes on Black Canary!

0:00 - Intro
0:43 - @dazzlethestar151
5:17 - @thebatdootman6665
6:16 - @alexkunce2002
7:49 - @buildaggedonarmanaziie4462
8:51 - Manta Sleep Ad
10:02 - @thesausageman5388
10:52 - @UniverseChronology
12:24 - @osazeamor
14:08 - @BroKing858
15:07 - My Unpopular Opinion
16:53 - Ending

[edudizs]

Actually black canary was trained buy the same guy who trained lady shiva(and a lot of masters too, like bruce) even the league of assassins wants her as the next lady shiva. So i really dont get why the batfans sound so butthurted when she is portrayed as one of the top 10 best fighters on DC when she actually is. She doesn't need any toy or her powers to beat someone's ass.

[UniverseChronology]

I agree with the first take. Young Justice is definitely my favorite animated take on Black Canary. She's pretty comic accurate just like the DCAU version and her design is probably the best out of the non-fishnet Black Canary designs. I also think her as a therapist is really cool and reminds me of when she helped Roy Harper with his drug problem. I also agree she should be a major member of the Justice League, she was a major member of the Satellite era and was the Chairperson of Brad Meltzer's Justice League, one of the best things to come from that series and I'd love to see her act as the leader of at least a version of the League. I even think she should be a founding member of the Justice League like she was in Post Crisis continuity.

I don't think DC overhypes her at all. She's the daughter of Dinah Drake, the previous Black Canary who was in the JSA and grew up being trained by her mother and members of the JSA. Wildcat being the one of her major trainers shouldn't be ignored as something unimpressive considering he was also one of the trainers for Batman and Catwoman. He isn't just a boxer, he knows muay thai, capoeira, krav mag and hapkido. And we shouldn't forget onw of her other trainers, Richard Dragon, considered one of the best martial artists in the DC Universe, around the same level as Lady Shiva just less prone to violence. Then there's all the other techniques she would've learned throughout her career from Wonder Woman, Cassandra, Lady Shiva, Batman, etc.

I never really cared too much about Sin, I like her but she's not really important to me. I think my problem is that it never really felt organic to me, it feels like a solid idea but rushed arc and Sin basically ends up feeling like a less interesting version of Cassandra or Lian. There also just hasn't been a story that made her work.

I don't think the way to make an origin more well known is to change it, just give more visibility to it. She's the daughter of Larry Lance and Dinah Drake, maybe move Dinah Drake out of the Justice Society in World War 2 and into a more modern superhero team like from the 70s or 80s because of how time works in comics. After the original Black Canary retires she and Larry can dedicate their time to raising their daughter and training her in self defense. Move Larry's death to before Dinah becomes Black Canary and have that be the reason her mother doesn't want her to be Black Canary but she does anyways because that's the kind of person she is. She can train under Richard Dragon and Ben Turner before getting approval from her mother and eventually founding the Justice League where she would eventually meet Oliver when he joins. Having her be a villain just feels wrong for her character.

I, unfortunately, agree that you can't really give her a solo film or show, she just doesn't really have too many good solo stories for something like that to work, she either has to be in a Green Arrow project, Justice League project, or Birds of Prey project, her character works best when she is with others.

[ghostrouxinol]

Black Canary never just trained only by Wildcat. She study and was trained by Richard Dragon and Batman as important mentors. She was even trained by The mentor who trained Lady Shiva and Dinah spent One year of her life training like Lady Shiva. While Lady Shiva was on Birds of Prey being Black Canary and Jade Canary. The beauty of Black Canary is that earn her feats. She didn't start as powerful but written slowly upgrade in human way.
There was some writers that try to play with her powers as well. Sometimes she can glide with her screams. She seem to be immune with Sonic effect like Sonic hypnose. And as singer her Canary Cry seems to make a good vocalist making her able to hit hard or near Impossible notes.

[pattongilbert]

Sin is actually being used as a main character in the Birds of Prey series, alongside Black Canary, Batgirl (Cain), Batgirl (Gordon), and Big Barda.

[ronniesommer]

They should utilize Black Canary’s heritage more. Her mom was a great hero in WW2 alongside the JSA

[ghartman]

Really underrated character. I could go either way with the power of her cry. I like her portrayed as a great fighter first (partly since I grew up on my dad's silver age comics where she had no powers), and I think it's cool to have her powers be Plan B, with Plan A just being to whoop ass. There are also cool things to be done with amping her powers like you suggested though (temporary or not).

[jendaar]

Great video. But I have to admit it made me sad. BC ia an awesome character that actually has a lot of depth but has been a victim of bad writing. I think many people get distracted with her being an attractive character and not look to much past that.

Remember, shes the daughter of a founding JSA member. Shes been raised qround heroes for her entire life. Which is why she is such a good mentor/therapist to younger heroes. Think of her as the superhero version of Carrie Fisher (princess Leia). She was a daughter of a famous Hollywood actress which gave her access to opportunities but also was an obstacle. I think that couls be developed more. Also, some may not know this but the Watchman character Silk Spectre is based off of Black Canary. I think that says something.

[tomleonard]

I would like to see her using a MMA fighting style that incorporates her canary cry creatively. When she usually uses her cry, she just plants and yells.

[thebatdootman]

Hey man, thanks for using my take! Whislt i stand by it i appreciate your take on it !

[gabrielgarcia]

One of the cooler but lesser well-used characters in DC, I think scaling up her power is unnecessary, truth be told, characters like Dinah, Oliver, Wildcat, etc. are so important for story development, they are vulnerable, flexible in the threats they face, which makes for a more interesting character. They are valuable, and Dinah in particular is an awesome character when used correctly

[UniverseChronology]

Ayyy, my first time in a Hot Take video. I feel like this is probably my most unpopular opinion when it comes to DC Comics because I know some people live and die by this relationship and I definitely get it. When the relationship is at its best it's really good, and you are right, for most people there is really no other pairing with Green Arrow or Black Canary, all of Ollie's other pairings are pretty problematic like Bonnie King and Shado, while the only other Black Canary pairing that pops to my mind is Doctor Midnite while Dinah was in JSA, though that series very rarely did anything with her aside from that relationship.

For me though, the thing that makes Oliver interesting was his flaws, his antagonism to those with differing opinions, his abandonment of his children, his infidelity, his womanizing, his selfishness, his stubborness, etc. Because of these flaws though, it makes it hard for me to see him and Dinah really working and the comics have shown this relationship is pretty bad on multiple occasions, hell, it's practically a joke in the comics that they will never last. Not to mention that Dinah is just better without Oliver, a majority of the Birds of Prey comics take place between Dinah's breaks from Ollie.

Honestly, I kinda wanna see DC try and make her and Doctor Midnite work again, I think it could work.

[dazzlethestar]

0:43 Woah, thank you for including my comment! :)

6:16 also I just wanna say, I agree with this one a lot. While I admit I don't actively keep up with Dinah's character or read many stories about her, the fact I'm constantly forgetting she has her canary cry makes me think that DC doesn't do enough with it. Or maybe that's just me 😅

[a-yyxy]

I think black canary can have her own show revolving around her as a legacy character. An animated show centered around Laurel and Dinah by having it be in present time with Laurel but showing the past with Dinah and having it lead up to and connect to current time

Edit: a character that would work well against her is the silencer she seemed interested to work with in arrow i feel like there could be more expanded with that

[Mookie.mp]

No way! Thanks for including my hot take! 😮

[viaisagirlkisser]

As a suggestion, do you think you could do Cheetah for the next one?

[amd]

I never knew much about this character! This segment unpopular opionions/hottakes bring some different perspectives. Its a great segment. Thanks TMM. Keep up the great videos!

[alexanderhill]

Black Canary is such an awesome character.

[thesausageman]

Watching this was so fun because I completely forgot what I said. JUSTICE FOR SIN

[LovethedemonWolf.]

I don’t agree with universe, chronology’s take I’d like them as a couple, and as problematic as they may be, they always find a way to go back to each other and it’s cute ❤

[DorkNight]

A Question unpopular opinions video would be cool