The Lord's Prayer in Gothic, English, German, and Swedish - And Who Were the Goths Anyways?

Stephan takes a plunge into the dead language of the erstwhile Gothic people (or peoples), comparing how Gothic probably sounded to how Swedish, German, and English sound. @loquidity4973

[brendamartini]

Thank you for this! I would be interested in more content about the old Germanic languages. I find this topic fascinating!

[dianekassmann]

I love language comparisons like this. Thank you!

[jorkasvupp]

Nice video! Thanks!
From what I have learned, is that the word “þiod” is related to ”tyda” in Swedish and ”deuten” in German (which would mean interpret in English) it was because the common people were speaking ”clearly” in opposition to the church latin. Then the meaning shifted so it became ”people” i.e those who spoke clearly.
So it became þjóð in Old Swedish, which also was used in the old name for Sweden, Svíþjóð or Svíþioð, still used in Icelandic.

[JSkitt]

It makes sense why germanic language speakers have the highest fluency of English. There's so many similarities among the languages that its easier to learn English.

[EarnestWilliamsGeofferic]

𐌰𐌹𐍅𐍃 • (aiws) - From Proto-Germanic *aiwaz, from Proto-Indo-European *h₂óyu. In the Germanic languages this basically becomes a stem. It does come back round to English (from the PIE) by way of Greek, αἰϝών, Anglicised as eon. It also comes back to us via Latin, aeternus, eternity. Ewig(keit), Evig(het), and ever (and forever) are all directly from *aiwaz, with English being the only example that didn't use it as a stem!

[richardhalsey]

I wish I'd had some of this when I was teaching, Stephan! Of course, most of that was pre-internet, and definitely pre-YouTube! Anyway, thanks!

[EuroDai]

A fascinating video Stephan, thank you for your clear explanation and pronunciation. I grew up in the UK and was an adolescent in the 1980s at a time when Goth rock came out following on from the punk era. I always wondered why it was termed 'Goth rock' as I saw no connection with the ancient Germanic tribes that we learned about in school. Maybe the dark, supranatural, mystical elements are just a throw-back to the harsh, pre-Christian dark ages.

[_spacegoat_]

'gard' here means 'enclosure', (also the root for 'garden') as in 'Midgard' or 'Asgard' - _middle enclosure_ (between Hel and Asgard) and _Aesir enclosure_

[popsicle]

I had the inkling that garden originally means „enclosed space“ . I checked that on Etymonline:“from Proto-Germanic *gardan- (source also of Old Frisian garda, Old Saxon gardo, Old High German garto, German Garten "a garden, " Old English geard, Gothic gards "enclosure"), from PIE root *gher- (1) "to grasp, enclose."“
That would fit nicely with the meaning of realm/kingdom/ Rikke/Reich - a defined and guarded area of land belonging to or overseen by one ruler/leader.

[mattbarbarich]

The Ostrogoths ruled greater Croatia and Slovenia also at the same time as Italy. Theoderic the Great left some influences there that last to this day.

[EarnestWilliamsGeofferic]

Argh! I wanted you to go over 'thana sinteinan'!

[zorrgal]

Interesting! Himmelen in swedish is an old spelling, no one says that today in daily speak. We say himmel like the germans. Himmelen is more like "the heaven" but in older swedish, but still used in the prayer. And in Sweden we can say "limpa" a kind of bread which is the same word as loaf, a piece of bread that we slice. En limpa bröd = a loaf of bread. In modern swedish we just say limpa.

[kaloarepo]

Some historians think that the Wulfilas Bible translation was not done by one person but a special committee living in the Byzantine capital of Constantinople which was Greek speaking. The important thing to note is that the Goths and other Germanic peoples converted to Arian Christianity not to Catholic Christianity - this created a lot of problems until later when most Germanic peoples including the Goths converted to Catholic Christianity. "Arian" in this context is not to be confused with the racial/ ethnic term Arian or Aryan.

[AdalbertPtak]

The "th" sound in some regional Spanish must be from the Goths.