The End of World War I: Decided by YOU

You guys voted the peace treaties of World War I for the Central Powers. How did that turn out?

Music used:
"Brandenburg Concerto no. 4" by J.S. Bach

[MicaiahBaron]

I am absolutely not surprised that Greece was given Constantinople. I know the map-drawing community, they always want Byzantium back.

[jivkoyanchev]

Truly to say I'm kinda sad that everyone forgets Bulgaria during WW1, when the country mobilized between 12% and 20% of its population, which for a country of 4.8 million people, at that time, was quite the achievement.

[steverukia]

Germany: loses ww1
Germany: gains more land then lost
Germany: visible confusion

[thehillshaveaviators]

Love this experiment.

I feel like this would have absolutely infuriated the French. Seeing Germany be more or less the same size after a French victory would have given the same sentiment as the Italian “mutilated victory”. Would we have seen the rise of a fascist France??

[alexnocraphole]

"Germany Loses War - Gets Bigger Than Ever!"

Also, fun fact, Woodrow Wilson actually intended to put Armenia under U.S. administration as a League of Nations mandate; it never happened, obviously, although it would make me wonder what would happen to it when the Soviets came around, as they'd effectively be going to war with America.

[piekay]

The thing about Eupen-Malmedy: not even Belgium wanted it. They even offered to sell it for a very fair price after WW1, but it never went through

[thegreatteaman]

This was super fun to participate in. I think it’d be cool if you continued doing stuff like this. Maybe something for the congress of Vienna or the end of WW2.

[nixtix]

2:27; Germany’s Treaty of Versailles
5:20; Austria’s Treaty of Saint-Germain-en-Laye
8:12; Hungary’s Treaty of Trianon
8:40; Bulgaria’s Treaty of Neuilly-sur-Seine
9:43; Ottomans’ Treaty of Sèvres

10:22; Voted map of the Middle East in 1920
11:42; Voted map of Europe in 1921

[idleishde]

The French would NEVER accept a larger Germany, gaining Austria is like giving defeated Germany rocket fuel. Interesting experiment but it would be fun to see someone trying to sell this idea to the French.

[benoneyahaghotu]

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[ComradePhoenix]

Someone should take these border changes and make a HOI IV mod called Tigerreich.

[mappingshaman]

8:07 its not a question of feeling sorry. I can almost guarantee you not a single person in france felt sorry for germany. The question is are they militarily capable of fighting germany, and the allies didn't think they were.

[paulcalixte]

A great thought experiment... but that proposed map would've had France IMMEDIATELY leave the negotiating room

[shinydewott]

Honestly it came off as I predicted. The "historical map" community has a heavy pro-Germany bias because they make the maps move the most so giga-germany was definitely not unexpected.

[aetu]

it doesnt surprise me even slightly that they decided to give every central power except turkey more land

[Tytoalba]

Casual reminder that the Potsdam agreement at the end of WWII was significantly harsher to Germany than Versailles was

[marcellkiss-redey]

The choice for Hungary in Transylvania is odd. The intention was probably to include Székelyland, but the map only manages to include half of it, with most of it being in the southeastern corner of Transylvania. In the shown scenario, you include a lot of non-Hungarians in Hungary, while still leaving the Székelys in the wrong country.

[FPSGamer]

Would love to see more of these, for example:
- The Concert of Europe
- The Paris Peace Treaties
- The Peace of Westphalia and the Peace of Münster
- The Berlin Conference
- The Treaty of Versailles (1871)
- The Division of Carolingian Empire
- The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo
- Treaties of Versailles, Trianon, Saint-Germain-en-Laye, Neuilly-sur-Seine, and Sèvres again, but all previous chosen options are removed

[genovayork]

This has a lot of potential. Wars of Spanish Succession, Quadruple Alliance, Polish Succession, Austrian Succession, Seven Years, Napoleonic Wars, WW2, Crimean War, Austro-Russo-Turkish Wars!

[therealinferno]

I'd love to see more of this, tbh, for other wars and treaties.