Is This Myth GREEK or EGYPTIAN?

Thanks to Jonathan Doberski and Khiliarkhos for help with my research.

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[allonzehe]

Fun fact, these myths inspired the movie Mrs. Doubtfire. The scene where Mrs. Doubtfire sets one of the kids on fire to make them immortal was cut from the theatrical release. The name of the movie and the titular character really don't make sense anymore without the scene of the children's mother doubting that the fire was a positive thing.

[GandalfTheTsaagan]

The whole "character losing loved one and going to the underworld to resurrect them just to find out that the revived won't be the same anymore" is also similar to Gilgamesh's story with Enkidu

[juanjuri]

The mother at the pool: Kids on youtube
The kid being played with: Greek Mythology
The kid drowning: Egyptian Mythology
The skeleton at the bottom of the sea: Sumerian Mythology

[kreolado]

Time to rant about this.

The big problem with Egyptian mythology in modern media is that we never relate it to the actual EGYPTIAN sources. The Osiris myth is several millennia old, is bloody big and complicated, has changed very often, varied from local narratives and consists of thousands of fragments. But every time the Osiris myth is mentioned on an internet page or a Youtube video, it is always the version of Plutarch. Plutarch, s GREEK writer who did not even intend to report neutrally on Egyptian mythology. A myth that is thousands of years old gets always reduced to a version from a single later foreign source.

Nephthys dresses up as Isis to sleep with Osriris? Plutarch wrote it. There is no reference to this tale in any Egyptian source.

Seth has a coffin made to kill Osiris? Plutarch wrote it. There is no reference to this tale in any (early) Egyptian source. In the Pyramid Texts, Osiris is killed by Seth with a knife.

Seth kills Osiris because of Nephthy's affair? Plutarch wrote it. There is no reference to this tale in any Egyptian source. In the Osiris myth, Nephthys is only ever mentioned as a nurse or mother of Horus and second wife or (and) sister of Osiris

[trya]

I like how he adds some mythology podcast on his cat filming videos

[star.eva_]

I really like listening to people recap mythology especially when it has humour.

[zyklqrswx]

what I love about this channel is your willingness to both do the animation in order to visually illustrate the condensed retelling of ancient myths and histories, while also taking the time to cite your sources and explain where these interpretations come from.

many other content creators would simply settle for the simplified retelling, without further contextualizing that content. that you do both is what elevates your content beyond other similar channels, at least for me.

[davidkaminski]

The "placing child on a hearth" thing comes from prehistoric rituals which survived in tales and some myth but lost their true meaing. These rituals are shared between many cultures, no wonder they apperar both in Greek and Egyptian myght. This theme of placing child in fire appears even in Russian folklore

You definetly should read the book "Historical Roots of the wonder tale" by Vladimir Propp. You will love it, tons of chaotic pagan stuff with proper academic analysis which might help you in your videos

[--Paws--]

As I mentioned in another video about Persephone's lore; Demeter's wrath is almost similar to how Parvati demonstrate how material things such as food are important, to Shiva. Almost like Demeter who went away causing crops to not grow and people to grow hungry, Parvati also went away to prove her point. However, when she came back she became Annapurna who provides food; in Demeter's case the seasons had some reason of being.

[raskal]

Jake: *An entire explanation on the time that these two similar legends were first recorded and why they are so similar*
Me: Ooh cat.

[chewiecheshire]

The "Magical Nanny" thing got me thinking; given the powers she has in the original Travers' novel, it could be that Mary Poppins is just Isis in disguise.

[leeshajoi]

I've heard an argument that the story of Osiris actually influenced the story of Dionysos, another Chthonic god who had the whole "torn-apart-and-resurrected" thing happening.

[blecis]

Another example of two cultures with a similar story are that of Ireland’s: Oisin and Tir na nog and Japan’s Urashima Taro, both are very similar despite how far away Ireland and Japan are from each other.

[ThomasVanhala]

Old culture did not live in isolated bubbles so it is common to see myth and folklore crossing over. Like Oskoreia (Scandinavian), Herlaping (England), Maisnie Hellequin (France), Dziki Gon (Poland), Ghost Rider (USA) and so on. All version of a wild hunt.

[amyfew]

Just wanted to say that I love your videos! They're funny, but also an interesting take on how historical events/phenomenon influenced belief systems of the time. I really appreciate the amount of work you put into each of these! Keep up the good work!

[nathantudor]

I loved the half n half goddess of Isis and Demeter. Really gives you a character that's funny and a good idea of how they merged into one entity over the millennia.

[doggo]

I'd like that you cover other events that aren't necessarily mythology, like the death of Socrates, as long as it sounds interesting.

[a.h.s.]

"Taboo against recording super bad events"
Holy shit that's real. Generally, it is still a taboo talk about anything bad, especially related to death. People generally avoid talking about mortality because they are afraid it will bring bad luck and will cause death to happen, I really hate when I am trying to have a serious conversation about death and someone shushes me for bad luck.

[yusheitslv]

Think you could do a video on the syncretism of flood stories?
The Bible has one, Mesopotamia has 2, even Greece has one. And Egyptian myth starts with one.

[shawnferguson]

Thanks for the video! I knew Isis became popular among the Greeks, didn’t know she merged with Demeter. And that magical nanny story... wasn’t there a similar story about Moses? Wasn’t Moses sent down a river in Egypt when he was a baby where he was found by an Egyptian princess who adopted him and hired his real mother to be his nanny? Or something like that. I only vaguely recall a couple tales from Moses youth, did any of them include the themes that linked Isis and Demeter ? It would be interesting to know if a third story line also shared this same plot