The Gnostic God vs The Orthodox God - Dr. Elaine Pagels

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From the religious historian whose The Gnostic Gospels won both the National Book Award and the National Book Critics Circle Award comes a dramatic interpretation of Satan and his role on the Christian tradition. With magisterial learning and the elan of a born storyteller, Pagels turns Satan’s story into an audacious exploration of Christianity’s shadow side, in which the gospel of love gives way to irrational hatreds that continue to haunt Christians and non-Christians alike.

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Derek, I know you know, but you've created (and are creating) a gold mine of resources for learning and entertainment, for both laypeople and scholars...bringing scholarship and these conversations to the public.
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I watch a lot of videos and interviews about religions, and your channel’s interview content impresses me to no end. Thank you for including everyone in the curiosity journey you are on.

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What a treat! Loved the manner in which Dr. Elaine answered all the questions. She's lovely! Great video!

jayb
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You are a kinder, gentler human being when you interview this lady. (Watched them all) Rather Respectful of women or her status, it's Most becoming of a strong man!!

trinade
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Perfect timing! I enjoy listening to the Nag Hammadi texts. They are so interesting, it's more about light and truth before the beginning of our universe.

timsmith
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Scores of people are waking up. The truth continues to come out.

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Thank you for having Elaine on! Excellent stuff, man. Good conversation.

wilkiebunkers
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Some view the Old Testament as spirit "upon" people and the New Testament as spirit "within" people... This change would enable the spiritually inclined to perceive the character of God more clearly.

FlockofAngels
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I could listen to Dr. Pagels all day. Such a soothing voice + her knowledge = perfection

vikingdemonpr
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The essential difference between the Gnostics and orthodox Christians is between inner awareness versus outer. The Gnostics look for God within, while the orthodox Christians favor looking for God without. In this sense Gnosticism is much closer to Buddhism. For example, there are sayings from the Gospel of Thomas, that could be Buddhist. I was very surprised to make this discovery.

harryknickerbocker
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Love listening to the professor; she's brilliant.

dynamic
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King James Bible
"Jesus said unto them, 'Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.'"

pninnabokov
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"Imagination is a great servant but a poor master."
Agatha Christie
The problem with religion.

seanhammer
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Elaine is one of my favorite guests on your show

gflem
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Facinating. Thanks for these interviews with Dr. Pagels

dan
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An everflow of amazing content and knowledge.

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Your content is so good bro! I’m a theist but I love your channel. Keep up the good work and God bless 😉

jonnyw
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I’ve read all of her books. She might be my favorite scholar. Origin of Satan was one of my favorites.

derekgoncz
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I enjoyed listening to Elaine Pagel.

Her elucidation about the Holy Spirit representing the female aspect of God was quite interesting, and fits perfectly with Daoism, yin, associated with the inward. The Holy Spirit is the inner teacher, guide.

In this light, the Holy Spirit is what I would call the I AM. I would associate this yin aspect of God with faith, which manifests as perseverance and trust, action and stillness, doing and non-doing, resulting from the wisdom within.

In this light, the Father is what I would call the universal Intelligence. I would associate this yang aspect of God with grace, which manifests as synchronicities, serendipities and karma, the outward dynamic, the shaping, supportive and stabilizing energies of life, resulting from the greater wisdom with which we are one.

The Gnostics who understood correctly realized that spirituality is symbolic and inward. That was the heart of Jesus' teachings, as it also is the heart of Laozi's teachings, be aware of the outer, but tend to the inward, Dao De Jing 28.

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1: You shall have no other demiurges before me.
2: . . .

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