LIVE! Real Lawyer Reacts: Delphi Update: Cults, Coverups And Suppression

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This is exactly why cameras are needed in EVERY single criminal case - bar none

shadowshow
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Former officer here. I’ve worked corrections, I’ve worked in jail, and I’ve worked the beat for the last decade before retiring. Few things I learned during that adventure.

1. There’s 100% aryan brotherhood members who are extremely active in Colorado state DOC’s and federal DOC’s that run kites from the leaders to members in the prisons. Yes they are crooked, yes they’ve staged incidents to make rival gang members the targets if they don’t pay.

2. There are multiple Deputies who are either aryan members, neo-nazi members, or OMG members working both the jails and the streets.

3. There are multiple leaders in the LE in Colorado that are high ranking members in the AB, NN’s, and Nordic cults that intentionally bury evidence in cases to either frame a target they’re after, set up officers who inform on them, and are heavy involved with the KKK, AB, NN, and OMG’s.

This shit is real folks. The amount of power and influence they have in local and state governments/politics/LE is incomprehensible. Don’t be shocked if ol boy is found to be hanging from his door after this is released and investigated. I’ve seen this shit first hand multiple times… evidence being buried, evidence literally being buried in the desert, evidence thrown off bridges into rivers, officers influencing other officers to change their stories and reports to fit the narrative for an arrest to make the public happy (BK comes to mind). Pay very close attention to how the state and the judge responds to this next hearing. My money is on the fact that cameras will get tossed from here on out. Things are about to get very spicy.

Retired_-
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My husband is a professor at Purdue. They get requests for comments and professional opinions all the time. They are incredibly careful when sharing opinions/information: university letterheads and certification stamps, recordings and peer confirmation. The professor would have logged the police interaction and backed it up with documentation. A bit like an expert witness. At least this is how it’s done in the maths and sciences.

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One other unsolved 2012 double homicide is about two cousins, Lyric Cook, age ten, and Elizabeth Collins, age eight. It was 400 miles away from Delphi in Evansdale, Iowa. They were out riding their bikes. Hunters found them about 25 miles away from their bikes and Lyric's cellphone, in woods in a neighboring county many months after the girls disappeared. There have been attempts to connect this with what happened to Abby and Liberty. Also, no cause of death was released by law enforcement. Probably many remember this.

shivani
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This is why cameras are needed in every criminal case!!! Keep people accountable!! The public also have a right to know…

CherrrrBear
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This makes me sick…I have known Libby since she was just a small child, Mike and Becky as well for 45 years. I am really struggling to process this. My heart breaks for the families.

patrickrebecca
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I was an Odinist for 40+ years none of those dispicable acts are any part of the odinist path. The incorrect use of the runes is an obvious point that they have no idea about odinism

happyday-yxmx
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It seems like the legal process is wildin' out lately with the Murdaugh case, and now THIS! What in the heck is going on?!?

lisaloo
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After reading the doc, as a layman... wow. It seems the local LE did some terrible terrible police detective work or are corrupt AF.

THICCpikachu
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All of this makes me concerned about what prosecution is withholding from defence in the Idaho case .

BlackStump
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I read the entire document and the 92 steps that prove no one could do it alone are very interesting to me. As a former icu nurse who multiple times every shift was responsible for repositioning, bathing, and just putting a gown on intubated sedated patients, I can attest to the physicality. It’s deadweight and unless you’ve truly felt that it’s really hard to comprehend. The redressing of the body in a shirt that was found essentially clean of blood AND dirt by a single person alone perplexes me. And the claims that no hairs or dna are found on the victims. A single person would be sweating. I imagine they would’ve shed hairs or made footprints all of which they say was absent from the crime scene. If anyone did this themselves it was an incredible feat and they had to have been suited up and or cleaned up extensively which so far no evidence of a cleanup has been presented. Without going into too much detail the 1hr 17min timeline does not compute in mind for all that had to be done not only to commit the crime but to stage how they were found and do it with no trace.

AMRP
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I was in that area as a witness in a custody case. We did not live there. The police followed us out of town after court & child custody exchange. I work for police and that was not normal behavior....that was corrupt police behavior.

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This new information clears up some oddities for me:

- In the bridge video, a black rectangle briefly enters the screen on the left and leaves again. Its a redaction box to hide someone's identity. This has always suggested someone else was there with the girls. This document reveals that the suspect Brad Holder's 16 yr old son was dating Abby. This is an indisputable fact repeated by the FBI and Becky Patty. The son could have lured, intentionally or not, the girls to the bridge before bridge guy took over.
- Bridge Guy has a long pole, stick, etc in his pant leg all the way up into his shirt. It's VERY visible when he bends his knee. This is probably the electric saw-cut stick needed at the crime scene.
- Bridge guy is far too tall to be Richard Allen.
- The water was too deep and the current too strong for one man to control two girls. The girls could have let the current take them and escaped.
- The odd second sketch never made sense. Now we know it was only released in 2019 because the witness was upset she was ignored. That sketch matched a witness statement from someone who lived in the private driveway community next to the bridge. That was also ignored.
- The "bloody" witness account never made sense. Why would a murderer walk that long of a distance covered in blood? We now know the witness never said "bloody".
- Carroll County now-former Sheriff Tobe Leazenby leased an entirely separate building to keep the case tucked away from everyone, even law enforcement. Indiana State Police Chief Doug Carter once commented that he doesn't even have access to the case. I had never heard of this being done for one investigation before. I guess he REALLY wanted to keep something secret.
- Tobe Leazenby's term limit as Sheriff was to end in November '22. His longtime friend and main detective Tony Liggett was on the ballot to replace him. The race against an outsider from Lafayette was very close. The outsider commented that one of the first things he would do as Sheriff is put new eyes on this case. Suddenly, out of nowhere, and only three weeks before the election, Richard Allen was arrested after 5.5 years of absolutely nothing. Liggett then won the election. Any secrets would remain secrets.
- Leazenby has always refused to show autopsy results to Libby's biological mom, Carrie Timmons, who lives in Kentucky. It seems only family local to Delphi, who could be controlled by Leazenby, could see the autopsy while Carrie was 'free' in Kentucky. Had she seen all of the cult symbolism on the autopsy report then she would have gone to the media and sounded the alarm.
- Richard Allen's "confession" to his wife on the phone was always odd and out of place for a guy professing his innocence. Knowing now that he is under the control of two cult member guards explains it.
- Liggett continues to refuse to move Richard Allen to a different detainment center. Usually the state/LE/etc do everything in their power to prevent any controversy that might affect the case or even lead to grounds for an appeal later on. Yet Liggett is obsessed about keeping control of Richard Allen no matter how controversial it has become.
- In december 2017 lead prosecutor Robert Ives suddenly retired. He never gave a solid reason. He did comment it had to do with the Flora fire and Delphi case (which the Defense suggests are linked). Ives said that if they made an arrest he will stay on as prosecutor. This was strange because, as prosecutor, he can try to get an arrest warrant for anyone he wants to. Who was stopping him? Now it makes sense.

Just my thoughts.

Pohonesty
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I lived in Indiana when this happened ! They kept everything hidden from the public. It's was weird then and still.😢😢

Nanaofgirls
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In the tv series, True Detective, there was one season that contained crime scene details similar to these details.

yomama
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Love to see defense attorneys working hard to defend their clients. It gives me more faith in our judicial system that seems very pro-prosecution.

lifewithcats
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Don’t know what to think except WOW Mr Richard A has very good attorneys. “A” for effort.

sylvias
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This is mind boggling. Remember the letter from the other prisoner that wrote the letter guards were torchering Richard Allen. So many things are wrong here!

alisonfowler
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Withholding information from the defense is not making their case stronger.

caredwave
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Thank you for covering this. So many people want to put their own opinions on it. It is nice to have the facts broken down in a simple manner. You are a gentleman and a scholar sir.

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