Analyzing Ephesians 1 w/ Corey Minor | Leighton Flowers |@smartchristians

Dr. Leighton Flowers discusses the context and meaning of Ephesians 1 with Corey Minor of @smartchristians.

Does Ephesians 1 support Calvinism?

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[swordtraining]

"He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world." 1 John 2:2

[reg]

Well done, Leighton, so cordial yet straightforward!!

[robjoyce]

Lord bless you, Leighton. I like the analogy of escaping to a tower in the middle of the city. Those who go in are destined to be safe.

The Passover is a direct biblical analogy that makes the exact same point. Those who put the blood of the Lamb on their homes and go inside are predestined to live.

[tjflash]

Thank you Corey and Leighton for this respectful discussion. I appreciate and enjoy following both of your channels.

[bisdakpinoy]

ISAIAH 40:8

The grass withers and the *flowers fall*, but the word of our God stands forever.”

[MrLetsgoflyers]

Dear friends in Christ, please pray for me and the children

[Etruth]

Great explanation Leighton. The common challenge I encounter with Calvinists is that they read themselves into the text and read over the original audience. Great job bringing the discussion back to the context of the text.

[Solaservant]

As a Calvinist I always changed Ephesians 1 in my head to say “Chosen “to be” in Him”

Rather than what the text says, which is “Chosen in Him”

[georgepalacios]

Very respectful between to brothers in Chrirst. Hope this will help, if you perish under the wrath of God you did that, if you go to glory God did that.
Blessings!!!

[AndrewKeifer]

All too often people get into the Greek looking to see if it says something which it doesn't say in the English. Typically this is done to affirm one's presuppositions.

[gintas]

It is a very good question of Dr. Flowers “who is us”!

When one writes an epistle, one does not write to “us”, but to “you”.
Worth not making any assumptions and instead checking out how the text itself defines explicitly these two groups and who they are (the text does indeed).

Ephesians make that distinction - starting from the group “us” in Eph 1:3-12, and defining that group of “us” in verse 12, then introducing group “you” in verse 13, continuing with that group also at the beginning of chapter 2, then mentioning “we all”, in verse 3, then almost every second verse from “you” to “us”;
The difference of “us” and “you” become very explicit in the second part of chapter 2; even later Paul makes a point how both became one new man from BOTH;
Paul addresses only “you” in vs 2:11, describe the state of you and how Christ proclaim peace to you who are far, and then “us BOTH” uniting in one new man. The you and us are still identifiable but are being part of the new identity.

This fits into the whole narrative of first three chapter, how God chooses in Christ group “us”, reveal to them the mystery of summing up or recapitulating everything in Christ, and how these two groups in Christ become one new man. The group “you” as a result is not anymore strangers, but fellow citizens,
is built on the same foundation of apostles and prophets, grow into the same building.
The pattern of the narrative looks similar to that of the olive tree of Roman’s 11 of gentiles being grafted into the olive tree.

The uniting of “us” and “you”, ie jews and gentiles becomes part of the large master plan of recapitulating all things in heaven and earth, or partial fulfillement of it.

Pronouns matter.

[reyamami]

Calnivist focused is on "Election", "Predestination" but not on "Relation".

[TheRomansGuy]

In Ephesians 1, Paul is explaining, just like he’s doing in Romans 8, all of the blessings that have now ALSO come to the Gentiles. All of the blessings had been thought to only belong to the Jews, but the “great mystery” that had “now been revealed” was that God did NOT leave anyone out of his election, he has elected all people. The Jews were chosen through the forefathers, everyone else was chosen in Christ.

[allenbrininstool]

God is not willing that any should perish

[renzrose]

Awesome team up. Between Corey's Greek reading and Flower's fluency in the calvinism cult, I am sure the enemy does not want these brothers in agreement.

[arlenelicklider]

What kind of creator creates people and condemn them before they are born? When some are chosen to be in Christ and some aren't, that is the same as condemning some..

[granthollandvideos]

I always read slowly slowly slowly with my Calvanist Friends. And ask them. Can we both agree that no matter what, , , we must agree that Eph 1.4 does not SAY. ""God has chosen us TO BE in HIM"" . I had to read it 10 times with one of my friends . Almost pointing to the words like a child. Till he admitted, ok. It doesn't say God has chosen us TO BE IN HIM. Then I say . "Then can we say . God has chosen us in him for a purpose, ie to be be holy. . The blindness of what is seen in the mind and not what's on the paper is remarkable.

[SaintPatrick]

Awesome job Leighton. Where can I watch the full show?

[grizz]

Excellent job Dr. Flowers, Cory just cannot accept simple logic, reasoning and the plain reading of scripture.

[dulcetsimone]

Change the "Fortress" analogy to "Arc" or "Home with lambs blood on the door post" or "Rahabs house with a scarlet cloth" lol

God teaches how we're saved with the Scriptures❤