Objective Morality and Human Value | Sam Harris

Dr. Peterson and Sam Harris explore the challenges of defining good and evil, the clash between cultural relativism and objective truth, and the role of science in shaping our moral landscape.

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[jpncdn]

Thank you, Dr. Peterson, for restraining yourself from interjecting and interrupting while Mr. Harris was explaining his position. You're developing. This was a great clip from your interview with Sam Harris, even though I'm not a fan of him.

[patrickmchargue]

When you note that an academic has become unmoored, I would say that that's too passive a statement. I would say that that person has decided to actively reject any framework for morals and has given up on living a moral life.

[LoriRushPixies]

What an amazing conversation! Thank you for sharing ❤

[teamfet]

Sometimes when need to do more and think less. I had the wonderful opportunity to explore the back country of Tajikistan. My interpreter was a 25 year old woman who spoke 5 languages. The farm she grew up on was just across the river from Afghanistan. She started learning languages because her dad thought it was important for her and her brothers to learn these languages. I am going to choose her side of the river for moral decisions over the taliban’s side of the river.

[julianperry]

I feel like Harris tries to argue literally and Peterson tries to argue philosophically. It’s an awkward dance.

[matthewdbickel]

Thanks for allowing Harris to state his position and the background thereof. Now I have to find your response/follow up questions!

[keithjohnsonYT]

The cashier and I both paused for the spoiled brat screaming from the other side of the store…
I said, “I’m convinced that the sound of freedom, is the sound of a kid screaming in the grocery store (or thrift store), but if someone doesn’t crack the whip, somebody else is gonna kill that kid.”
She replied with a smile and a twinkle in her eye, “You know, some people wouldn’t want to hear that.”
(I love old people.)
🤭

[robertweinmann]

The value of objectivity during a subjective experience.

[stevenrn]

Sam learns: Education does not equate morality. That is an IQ 95 realization.

The question is, can he turn his vision onto himself as he believes the expert class above all else. He is a pure Scientism advocate.

[TheOlzee]

So what exactly was Sam’s point? That really smart people have lost the plot? Well said Sam lol

[StephenGarbacik]

Perhaps read The Summa by Saint Thomas Aquinas. It’s all there. See if it resonates and makes logical sense.

[PamelaRivera-bk]

your videos are really good, the quality is increasing with every update🦁

[donthomas]

In some cultures, they love their neighbor, and other cultures they eat their neighbor, which one is correct, and why?

[dver]

"Morality has to relate to the suffering and well being of conscious creatures". As a Christian, I think Sam is pretty close to the target on this point. I think he's just one step removed from the true target which is relationship. As a Christian, I would say that morality has to relate to the quality of interaction between conscious free beings (i.e. relationship). And high quality interactions between conscious free beings are the only thing that can "bear good fruit" in people's lives. Everything else is downstream of that, which is to say that well-being and suffering are downstream of the quality of interactions between conscious free beings. Love and truth together are what facilitate high quality interaction.

[hopeforfreedom]

I would like to add that when you read in the Bible it does actually talked about having slaves but it also does talking about setting the captives free. Here in America has been abolished yet we see it in so many other forms now especially with addictions and doctrines that bring people captive and these are the type of things that I would like to see loose from around the people's necks, or minds should I say. Have a great day

[maurices]

Value is subjective, so is morality, which is of course, my subjective opinion.

[mickbadgero]

Thanks for the video. Which book was the conversation in? Sam Harris has a bunch.

[Letsplay]

I don't know about that. I would argue the average female "oppressed" under the Taliban with her husband and five kids is objectively happier than your "free, liberated" 40-year-old woman living in an American city with her two abortions, cats and wine. It really comes down to perspective and what you value, and not all peoples throughout history and geography will value the same things. So the academic that countered Harris was correct.

[stuartcg]

Sam Harris simple assumes that he is right and can't see it.

[nate]

Just to play Devils advocate to Sam Harris's view: If one could simply measure the amount of suffering or happiness of a being at any given moment and optimize to minimize suffering and maximize happiness in the moment, isnt the likely outcome a satiated and dull existence, or even worse: Something that looks like addiction?

Suffering and happiness are never really balanced, and it takes a spike in one to create a spike in the other, it seems. For example, delayed gratification may look like suffering in the near term to obtain less suffering and more happiness in the future.

Instead, one may optimize for the least amount of suffering and most happiness across time and population and span it out to an infinite horizon (e.g. across generations and accounting for impact on others' states of being). This brings us back to a religious viewpoint for bearing the maximum load for the greater Good.