Malaysia Education Is Losing To Vietnam. Here's Why

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Is Malaysia Education losing to Vietnam? We'll find out why in this video and how we could improve to ensure our kids have a better future. Let me know what you think!

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Reminds me of my former math teacher. She's a very very competent teacher and loves teaching; even a bad student like me managed to get 'okay' rank despite getting F continuously the previous year. Yet there's one problem… because she's very competent she got assigned more task not related to teaching like going to courses etc. so much that we only saw her two days in a week. She make up for her absence by teaching her classes for half a day session during weekends which she also didn't force any students to attend because the fault is with her and not her students.

bloomingblossom
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In the 90s, if you had picked a random student from Hanoi vs KL, the Hanoi student will beat the KL student. Malaysia isn't losing. Vietnam had been stunt due to war which resulted in poverty and access. As they recover, they regain their rightful place

btlim
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Me as a teacher
1. Inadequate training is half the problem. Malaysia is too slow in providing properly trained teachers. They resolve to open vacancies to non education major graduates and only provide little training to them. KPLI, DPLI, interim, mystep. Still we dont have enough teachers

2. The clashing between old school/ dinosaurs with the new teachers. Education is a dynamic system. As generation changes so does the way we teach. The old cant cope, the new properlt trained ones are pressured to the demand of the dinosaur that resting in the higher up. Dont forget the little napoleon that " bawa kepala sendiri"
Miss match of understanding and views within educators that makes it hard for us to move together.

3. Training is always provided to the teachers but they just " bagai melepas batuk di tangga" put everything shove it down to our throat then expect us to implement them without proper facilities, equipment, budget etc.

4. Under appreciate, lack of reward system. Yes they are some but of it are superficial. Some based on seniority, some purely based on the wow factor instead of effectiveness and viability.

5. Lack of authority, teachers really cant do anything nowadays. Everybody seems to be above us. Even the students. They can do whatever they want we cant do anything. The system listen more to parents instead of the teachers. Nobody is listening, nobody is really looking. Only ousiders condemning teachers here and there


Reality is everything looks find and dandy on paper. The system said they did that and this and macam2 program here and there But under here eveything is a shithole and nobody is truly give a damn.

anirsyafiq
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Coming from an intense Chinese primary school and onward to a National secondary school, the drop in quality of teachers is pretty evident. But I enjoyed the more relaxed atmosphere in secondary.

From the get go, I knew that everything was about the As. The number of As means access to scholarships, both private and government. It didn't matter if you were competent, or whether you could think critically, I spend most of my energy just memorising and vomiting. I also negotiated with my parents, as long as my grades were fine, I can skip tuition. At the end of it all, I did well but felt incredibly stupid! I'm just glad that my school was very active in its co-curricular scene. I think those clubs taught me more about life than anything I could learn in class. There weren't a lot of teacher supervision, and we needed to get things done on our own. We organised lots of camping trips, and made plans to go Petroscience etc. I'm not sure how schools can mimic this kind of active initiative amongst students; all I know is if your teachers are swarmed with admin work, the responsibility lies on the students to make things happen.

rachelwan
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Education policies in Malaysia is a political tool/football used to create the idea of helping the underprivileged but In reality is used to keep the elites in power.

charlieyang
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The problem isn't that we DONT WANT stem subjects, it's that the SCHOOLS limit only to a few classes for stem . Alot of my friends wanted to enter science stream but got placed in commerce stream instead due to overdemand

jeraldongyisheng
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Vietnam is a confucianist country.
Their emphasis on education is similar to all confucianist cultures.

soonpohtay
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Peter I understand your concerns over our education system. While I agree our education system need serious reforms, I think you need to get some of your facts corrected. I think you misunderstood cascade-oriented professional development. As a former Malaysian teacher trainee I particular took offence to how loosely you use the term “teacher training”. What the paper and yourself were referring to is Professional Development not teacher training. That is a wholly a separate matter. Malaysia still invest a lot in teacher training but these institutions have suffered from underinvestment as well as not attracting the best talent for the industry.

If you were born in the mid eighties you are a product of a curriculum based on KBKK (CCTS) everyone wanted to go “science stream” art stream classes was stigmatised. The boom in interest in STEM which you described in Vietnam happened in Malaysia between 1995 and weaned circa 2010. I would have felt more receptive to this video if you spoke about the failure of Malaysia Education Blueprint 2013-2025 rather than comparing us to Vietnam. The Blueprint was the brainchild of JIBBY administration was loosely based on the Australian Education system particularly NSW system. Admittedly it was a great document to read but at the end of it how much of the Blueprint was realised. Oddly enough Peter, it speaks about giving autonomy to schools, lessening teacher workload even highlights the importance of early childhood education.

While your intentions are noble Peter, I just find this video very “opposition”. In the end of the day like pencen and oil subsidies, education is also very high up in our expenditure. As you have pointed out in terms of universal education I can admittedly say we have done a decent job. Also its pertinent to note that there are many many many excellent teachers out there but access to schools with very good teachers still remains "exclusive". I do agree that things need to change. Our education system has suffered neglect over 10 years while the world changed and shifted their education focus we were resting on our laurels. What I fear is I don’t expect any wholesale changes soon.

vimalrajkr
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In a country that favors BUMIPUTRA in Education slots.. not surprising

lingth
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In the developed countries, teachers often come from top academic background. Compare that to Malaysia where top students pursue other options, working overseas and not coming back

MrOklah
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I was in Sekolah Kebangsaan from 1986-1996, and I can tell everyone reading that I barely learned anything in those 11 years.

Out of the dozens of teachers I had met in the six schools i went to in Melaka, Selangor, and Penang, only 3 ever had my respect and considered actual educators instead of being useless government servants just there for a paycheque.

I had a teacher assigned to teach English and she couldn't speak English fercryingoutloud!

Alhamdullilah my parents took it upon themselves to give my siblings and I homeschooling as it was very evident early on school could not be depended upon.

myretronation
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We suffer in IQ test ranking as well, because conventionally our education does not emphasise reading proficiency, critical thinking and problem solving; it's all memorization practice and speed answering that take us to straight A's. When the government tries to explore what we lack of, they actually pile up the material instead of rehauling the teaching system as a whole. What you have is materials push to earlier timeline. (i.e: Science chapter in standard 6 has now belonged to standard 4, or form 5 's chemistry is now form 4). In addition to abolishment of UPSR and Covid Study deficiency, teachers give up. There is no longer a reliable standard as goal post, There is a bureaucratic check list, teachers are actually more administrators than teachers. Also, double coexisting language medium does not help teachers at all.

I think teachers are underpaid for what they need to perform, the student: administration: 1 teacher ratio is brutal, and the education standard fluctuates for no good reason. Culturally, does A mean I manage to remember to solve math problems 100 time correctly, or I'm being really clever at solving how far a potato bazooka can shoot a potato? That is the question ministers, teachers and parents need to solve.

nightsage
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Another thing is manipulation, some educators in an attempt to protect school reputation, leak questions or provide model essays for kids to score an A. It was only a year ago a mother spoke to teacher for his kids only scored 10 marks for BM. In the coming uasa, he scored and A
....Half year after uasa, the kid told me he failed the BM test again. I really feel so sorry for our generations.

masterenglish
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Malaysian education system is not about excellence or meritocracy, its always about (1) racial quotas and (2)making it simpler so that more students get more A's so that ministers can pat themselves on the back. If your priority is racial quotas, the teachers can only teach as fast as the slowest student can comprehend. A class is not A class anymore. It's A, B, C class.

mindislife.
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When it comes to Malaysia, there is no need to compare. A country that discriminates on race and is not based on meritocracy is doom to fail.

delsol
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Sadly, not losing....it is lost. If Malaysia continues insists on using certain language, which does not help in the global requirements....coupled with their lack off global competition in studies both within the country (based it on pure merit, regardless of race) and regional & international these Uni students are shielded from competition, they do not know real market needs or culture. Don't pay lip service, it need complete overhaul.

masdemon
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I prefer my child Learn to learn instead of learn to score. Singapore realized this mistake and the govt now stop emphasizing academic result (albeit too late) and strongly encourage to look beyond. If you learn to score, it is hard to think out of box.

MOE said they will do this, implement that but never say HOW in details hence it is all merely lip service but without any concrete plan. Increment on STEM intake means many student realized the importantly of it but that also doesn't mean they will do well if teacher quality did not improve.

I always said this, our syllabus is not that bad but it is our teacher that need better training. That teacher competency report say it all.

frankchong
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Vietnamese here. Believe me. Education in Malaysia is better than Vn. Score doesn’t tell you the full story. I lived in MY for few yrs and know lots of vnese having kids studying in Malaysia

TrungNguyen-xkrx
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Thanks for making the video content like this as I also in a miserable stage to make a choice in between national secondary vs igcSe. Too much doubt not only on the U-turn factor; another concern also I was informed that some schools tends to only focus on good grades student. The average and ordinary grades students tend to get neglected which it shouldn't be like that.

shereenichang
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Malaysia will one day become a Estopia country. Status already below African's country. K-Country in Kampung style, K-PM, K-Ruling, K-Economy, everything still K Style...

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