The Bite Victim was NEVER the Puppet

[tae]

Of course the bite victim isn’t the puppet, he’s Sans???

[Peach_C_Toadstool]

Hot take: I find it hard to believe that the crying child possesses anything at all. He died in a hospital, away from any animatronics to possess. Unless William snatched his body and stuffed him inside a suit the minute he died, how would the boy haunt anything?

[sheepnebula]

I remember the stretch I would make before FNAF 6 to justify my own belief that CC was the Puppet was "oh well yeah he was bitten by fredbear but he didn't _die, _ no no no, he survived and was killed _later..."_ despite the flatline at the end of the game, and despite it being his dad that would kill him. I was funny.

It was never canon, and it was never Scott's retcon. But I consider Puppet CC _my_ retcon, and I'm happy with that.

[endero]

My belief is that the retcon was that Spring Bonnie, as shown in FNaF 1's drawings, was originally blue,

but it was retconned that he appears blue as he's in the shadows, while he's actually yellow, in FNaF 2.

Why make him yellow? To differentiate him from Classic Bonnie, and to tie him to Fredbear.

He also stands out more as a result.

To pay homage to this, every time Spring Bonnie appears in the shadows in the Graphic Novels, he's blue.

This would go heavily unnoticed, as many FNaF fans don't even believe the FNaF drawings contain any possible lore, so they're always overlooked.

This retcon however, confused the community during FNaF 2's release, as we're told that a "yellow" suit was used, however, as Spring Bonnie was blue in FNaF 1, the only characters we had to go off of were Chica and Golden Freddy, only for FNaF 3 to show us that it was Spring Bonnie all along, Scott just changed his colour.

I'm glad that his drawings are yellow in the Novel Trilogy and the movie.

[smashers]

Again it comes down how the crying child is as a character he isn’t proactive, he’s a literal crybaby, he doesn’t seem like the type to give gifts to others so they can take his revenge, even when he’s dead he’s still a crybaby for the most part.

[maxwellattacks]

I personally think he is Shadow Freddy. He is Mike's looming Guilt

[kinglod]

That hobgoblin reference was one hell of a deep cut

[endero]

6:30

I agree that the Fredbear Plush is possessed by RWQFSFASXC.

With RWQFSFASXC also controlling Fredbear and Spring Bonnie, as shown by RWQFSFASXC taking the place of their literal shadows (which is what signifies RWQFSFASXC taking over someone in Fazbear Frights).

We also know this as the Fredbear Plush speaker speakes to us in the restaurant, where there is no Fredbear Plushie, only the animatronics themselves.

This also means, while controlling Fredbear, RWQFSFASXC intentionally caused the '83 bite, so, it was never an accident.

As for what RWQFSFASXC is, the Dark Remnant of the simultaneous springlock failure victim (Purple Guy)

As for their motivations, they're clearly generating tons of agony and fear from the Crying Child, and using it to feed off of.

And once he's sucked dry, he's no longer of use, and is disposed of, same with the MCI before him.

And it can't be William speaking through a walkie talkie, as William is currently busy putting a Bonnie suit on an employee during when the Fredbear Plush speaker is currently talking to Crying Child.

As for what Plus Fredbear has in his hands, it looks more like a remote control for the Nightmare animatronics, which would make sense, as the plush is positioned next to the cameras in the FNaF 4 bedroom location.

[gaminganimators]

Why can't the retcon just be Purple Guy becoming the owner? The original games strongly insinuated he was a guard or something but never the owner until the Charlie Trilogy and Sister Location came out

[HorrorHomestead]

I think the retcon is the Schmidts becoming the Aftons.
It was perfectly solvable from FNAF 4 that foxybro was Mike Schmidt. So this change went unnoticed because people didn't really put that together until later. So it went from "they are the schmidts" to "mike used a fake name during fnaf 1"

[tobymardis]

Don't you know only one kid is allowed to cry in this entire franchise

[Boigboi]

There was a time that I believed that The Puppet moving on in Happiest Day then returning in 6 was the retcon until I realized 6 came after the Scott post. I do wonder if it was something benign being retconned like Fredbear's bowtie and hat changing colors for no real reason lol. Would be nice if Scott ever revealed at least which game the retcon happened in so people could figure out if it was important or not.

[amongstus]

I think I'm convinced the retcon was that the Puppet/Proto-Charlie was CC/Proto-Michael's younger sister like JoeDoughBoi said. It fits the 'no one noticed' criteria while also being a clear retcon of character relations that affects the story massively, and not just a minor change Scott would just wave off as not a 'real retcon' in his mind. It also explains why Fredbear Plush seemed to originally be the Puppet in FnaF 4/FnaF world but then in the game where the retcon happens (Elizabeth becoming the younger sister) that is changed so Fredbear Plush was ole' Willy

[Takejiro]

I've recently though that whatever is in the box is/was the full story up to FNAF 4 fully laid out to be presented for us. Like, a puzzle whose pieces are put together. Or an objective timeline.

"But would the community accept it that way?"
Considering that the fanbase got most of the fun out of solving the story for theirselves even with its cryptic hints and vague storytelling (Scott even said the fanbase figured out the story of the first 3 games and was disappointed the story of 4 wasn't), I can see why Scott is/was hesitant to present the full story this way.

[endero]

I don't really see the Crying Child being the FNaF 2 Puppet working out,

The FNaF 4 Crying Child and the Take Cake kid are shown to die in different ways in FNaF 4, the game Crying Child is formally introduced in-

however, FNaF 4 is also where the Crying Child is first connected to, in FNaF 3's Mangle's Quest, the specifically monochrome puppet-like character with no leg stripes, a removable mask, black tears, and a wide chest that can fit a person, like a springlock animatronic, unlike the Marionette shown in FNaF 2.

This is why I believe the Crying Child goes on to be Nightmarionne instead, aka, the Shadow (Puppet(/Freddy, BB, Tree, Princess, etc...)).

And Charlotte being revealed to be the Marionette later on wouldn't affect this plot point at all, so it wouldn't be "retconned out"...

This would mean the Crying Child is still currently Nightmarionne, which is interesting due to his presence in the Mega Pizzaplex,

including how he has plushies of himself set up around the building for surveillance, learning from the tricks used on himself by other as a child.

There's also Nightmarionne's line referring to themselves as the reflection of Charlotte, which is interesting, both because the Bite of '83 is a mirrored Happiest Day, with Crying Child being a direct reflection of Charlotte, and in the novel trilogy, Charlie refers to her twin as a mirror... 👀

Y'know, FNaF's devorce and custody case is really confusing at times, you can never be sure which child originally came from what parent-



Anyway, I really hope Help Wanted 2 reveals the true identity of the springlock animatronic in the CBEaR bunker...

going by what Room For One More tells us, it's the real body of Nightmarionne, with the large chest cavity and all, as their FNaF World model and FNaF 3 Mangle's Quest sprite shows us...

but until it releases, it'll be my wishful thinking.

Thanks for reading :D




Edit:

And as for what's in the Box, it's as Scott said, it's the pieces of the Crying Child put back together. He was promised by Charlotte that she'd put him back together. But, tired of waiting, he put himself back together, as Nightmarionne.

Then he escapes, specifically in FNaF World.

[imalright]

"mci"
normal person: missing children's incident
me: my chemical...iomance?

[blankblank]

im pretty sure the retcon is mr hippos famous speech about over analysis

[porcelainchips]

Okay, Psychic Friend Fredbear theory - He was just a walkie-talkie plush IRL, but the "memories" we see are dreams / memories mixed with dreams. There was a physical object, which is why it's in SL; to confirm it wasn't imagined. But what it said... That's the mystery part; was the bite victim just remembering what the voice said via the walkie-talkie, or, as he remember-dreams is the plush being used by an invader, a "dream walker" to communicate to him. This idea comes from the notion of if someone is dead, or trapped in a dream, what they experience can only be a re-mix of what they saw in life / what they saw when they were awake. This plush was his friend, whom he trusted and he knew it could talk... So if a voice used it as an avatar to speak through to contact him then perhaps he would accept it and not be afraid of it (when otherwise the bite victim is afraid of many things within the world he remembers).
Where I get this comes from stories and books were someone is either a ghost "trapped" in their looping memories of life, or a person in a coma dreaming and then some third party, some magical character projects into their world. In many cases, it's shown that the spirit or person freaks out at seeing something new or unfamiliar, but if this person shows up as something/someone already in the dreamscape then they are just accepted as part of it and not being some outside threat.

In the end I feel like Psychic Friend Fredbear showing up in SL is just suppose to confirm that whatever FNAF4 is represents events that happened; perhaps in the mind of a child they are remembered differently; but they definitely happened. Whoever put the walkie talkie in the bear went on to work at the SL bunker, this person had a "private room" with cameras to the house the child saw and the maps confirm that nothing the child remembers was completely made up. But beyond that I think people want to overthink it; Scott's goal was probably to get across two points; 1) FNAF4's events, people and places are REAL people, events and places. There's a foxybro out there, there are a group of bully-children, there is a purple man / entity out there and there use to be a house near Fredbears where two boys and a parent that worked with the Fazbear company lived.

[vanyadolly]

How was this even a theory? 😂The puppet is incredibly proactive while the CCs reaction to everything is literally curling up in a ball and crying.

[gaminganimators]

The chest theory about the mask makes so much sense!