Why Linux is the worst Desktop Operating System (for certain people)

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[UntrackedEndorphins]

Gameplay commentary? nah I prefer compiler commentary

[oscwavcommentaccount]

"Windows distros"
That's a word combination I thought I would never hear

[billytehkid]

what dish soap should i use? what exact chemicals are you looking to use? idk man i'm just tryna keep my dishes clean.

[BlueScreenyt]

I think you're way off here. The reason people don't like it is simple - it's not intuitive. Ive used dozens of OSes and currently run MacOS, windows, and linux simultaneously in my house. And I can say with certainty there is not a single particular task, application, or configuration I have tried to do on linux without something going wrong and having to open 14 tabs on my browser to figure it out. And I've been using it for years. It's regardless of what distribution. Even very experienced computer users struggle because nothing "just works".

[whyeddy]

we can hear the fans going sicko mode from the gentoo package compiling lol

[TCOphox]

Who the hell is Gernu and why is he slashing Linux

[enedrob]

You misunderstand why people get annoyed with Linux. The ruby developer understood people better. Linux should be if you want to customize it you can, but if you don’t we have a reasonable default. Most of Linux doesn’t use reasonable defaults and expect you to do all the work of setting everything up. To some this is what they want, but for others they just want stuff to work without having a PhD in computer science. The evolution mail client is a perfect example instead of just entering your email username and password. It expects you to configure the IP address for the mailing protocol. Why? Linux constantly demands that you know everything about how it works to use it. People just want a computer that works, and protects their privacy. That’s why Apple became so popular. I know they aren’t honest about how private they are, but you look down on people for not wanting to waste a bunch of time customizing. What happens if my hard drive crashes, and I haven’t backed up for several months. Hours gone, and having to recustomize shit. Package managers they are great until something goes wrong and they can’t fix themselves. Time for forums and digging crap out of your computer to get it working again and never quite being sure you got everything.

[EdwardGermanAdwardspiral]

So, it's a podcast with terminal instead of any footages...clever!

[jacksmith]

I am a Linux guy and i understand why people stay with windows for sure. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. No ill will toward any computer user, we are just trying to get our work done after all

[fotnite_]

There's a subsection of the Linux community that refuses to understand that you shouldn't have to learn the command line to use your computer. I use the command line on my PC, for my use case it's very fast and convenient, but there needs to be reliable options that can get things done in the GUI for people that either aren't as tech savvy or don't have the time to put in to use it. Which, like it or not, even in some FOSS-only utopia where IP is abolished or some shit, and all OSes are community maintained, will *always* be the case. One of the greatest things about Linux is the shear number of options you have, so it is really disappointing there isn't an option with a GUI that would warrant most people switching when they get their PC like how they download Chrome or Firefox instead of sticking with Edge.

Ubuntu and Mint are nice, and relative to most distros are certainly beginner friendly, but their GUI functions still aren't at the same level as Windows. As behind the times and bulky as Windows GUI is, its _functionality_ easily supersedes the GUIs for the majority of Linux distros and DEs. And whenever I say this, I get *so many* Linux fanboys down my throat claiming I'm trying to take what makes Linux great away from them, seeming not to understand that there can just be a group of distros that can be configured entirely through the GUI, and that they can keep using whatever the fuck they're using now. So many people act like making Linux more appealing requires upending all of the technical and minimalist distros, when all that it requires is that a _different_ distro works to be more accessible by most people.

Additionally, I hate the attitude that it's the fault of the 99% of people that don't use Linux that Linux isn't used, as though this adds anything unique or applicable in any way. Even _if_ it's everyone else's fault for being sheep, what does yelling at everyone else for not being good enough accomplish? It's a completely unreasonable expectation, one that ensures that Linux will never become more relevant than it already is. It's the Linux community that needs to be less gatekeepy, to put together a distro that can attract regular-ass people, and take other steps to make Linux popular.

Blaming everyone else for not using Linux is, above all else, narcissistic, arrogant, unreasonable, overly idealistic, exclusionary, elitist, and most importantly, childish. In other words, it is point-for-point the exact stereotype of the average Linux user. Perhaps at the beginning I should have said there are two main reasons people aren't switching to Linux, and one of them is that most people seem to think this stereotype is accurate. Unfortunately, all this video really accomplishes for anyone watching outside the Linux community is to reinforce that stereotype. And for video essays like this, how you look to people who _don't_ agree with you, or are from a _different_ community, is really all that matters. Otherwise, you're just preaching to the choir.

The reason this upsets me is because I _want_ Linux to succeed, but it's viewpoints like this that keep that from happening. It doesn't have to be this way, this problem is not inherent to Linux. But the obstinance of many in the Linux community, whose daily usage could really only benefit from Linux having more mass appeal, serves to preserve the status quo.

*I must add a disclaimer* that I don't think you agree with all of these different community members I mentioned above. I'm simply pointing out that I feel this video condescends towards non-Linux users, which is something I don't think has justification for any video within this community. I know that we don't have to walk on eggshells to have mass appeal in every little bit of content produced about Linux, that oftentimes communities need to be able to talk differently when a discussion is geared primarily towards members of the community, but I don't think the condescension falls in that category.


On a side-note, as a CompSci major, I have had the unfortunate experience of meeting multiple stereotypical Linux users, who until learning I used Arch on my main PC, treated me like absolute shit by default, talking in the most demeaning, condescending way I've heard IRL in quite a while. What do you think would have happened if I were a Windows or Mac user currently considering switching, and encountered people like that? I think people like this are the inevitable outcome of a not-insignificant portion of the Linux community otherizing non-Linux users. Insufferable people like this will always exist, sure, but we could do to not reinforce their behavior within this community.

[buttersquids]

Boys and girls: Anime girl studying with lofi beats.
Men and women: Gentoo compiling with Mental Outlaw talking

[abhrantapanigrahi]

Let's get this straight. People whose workflows are smoother on windows should use windows. People whose workflows are smoother in mac, should use mac. People whose workflows are smoother in linux, should use linux.
That's all there is to it.

[nothanks]

i only use gentoo because /g/ told me to install it

[ionichi]

When Cortana tells me it's time to eat, I have to buy my food on the Windows Store. Cortana caught me on a contraband OS (Linux) in a VM, so I've been in Solitaire for a month; man, there's only so much Solitaire I can take.

[IdleCommentator]

Oh, dear FMM. This video is in many ways a perfect illustration of many things that is wrong with a rather significant portion of Linux community - arrogance, lack of awareness and perspective etc
People are googling the best distro not because "they are slaves to the system, man" and "free thinking enough". People have limited opportunities in their life - mainly, limited by time. They don't have the time to try 10 different distros to find out, which is the best one for them, They don't have the time to tinker with 3-5 desktop environments, file managers etc - they'll prefer to go with one provided by the OS by default if it's convenient enough. If you work in IT, software development, PC hardware space and your job provides your with ample time and capabilities to waste your time fine tuning the OS - good on you. For most however - it's not true. They have the opportunities to try out 1, maybe 2 distros - and thus that one better work out of the box with probably minor adjustments for personal convenience or this people will leave Linux and never return.

[robdom]

I'm a Windows user. Why don't I change to Linux? Well, have you ever tried to write your name with your other hand? It's uncomfortable if not impossible. Probably you could get used to it, at tremendous effort and time, but you'll never be 100% at it. It's the same for a Windows user. But it's even more than that: We are completely dependent on Windows compatibility. We are not just institutionalized, we are junkies. My job at the office is in a Windows environment. I'd have to use Wine because of it. Most of my games wouldn't run on Linux either. It would be like a minefield, trying to figure out what works and what to change in my life to accommodate a new OS. And if I have to virtualize everything, I might as well just use Windows and save up on processing power.

[markh.]

"Meanwhile, viewers struggle to determine what is exactly the point of this video..."

[VivekYadav-dsoz]

You have to zoom out a little bit, not everybody's world is just computers. Most people have been using computers just so they can access their mail, browse internet, make a PowerPoint etc. Most people don't give a shit about OS until they absolutely need to. You seem to be going through a phase right now. This is elitist narcissism thinking lowly of others. Being a programmer myself, I don't often see myself tinkering and configuring my Kali THAT often, the bundle it comes with and its defaults are sensible and I don't need to change it further. I don't give a shit about the OS, it gets my job done and that's all.

[avashurov]

When people adopting to new software they need to be presented with standard options that can be operated with no learning curve so that they can evaluate its completeness and feel free to mold it to their liking. The systems that drop you to terminal right from the start will never take off. I don’t understand, why not just put a check mark “install common software” and if you’re super user you can just uncheck it

[PhiSanti]

"Normies/noobies are prisoners".... What next? Shall we hunt our own food because that would give us more control over what we eat? How about tailoring our own clothes? Don't get me wrong, I love Linux, and I use it a lot as a terminal, but I would never put it on the laptop of my girlfriend. Cannot even imagine my mom using it.