How to ACTUALLY freeze and why I dislike Proguides/Skillcapped

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The midgame macro video is taking a little bit longer to make than expected so in the mean time have a video because I was sick of seeing the same mistake in coaching over and over!

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EragonUK
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This is completely fair. Though I'd have to point out that if you are not playing a champion that builds lifesteal/has sustain without needing to touch the enemy champion then you wouldn't want to have any more than 4-5 rangeds as the hp loss does add up, esp since you have to tank the wave longer as the larger wave will kill your wave faster.

RhokuTV
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Theres another reason you missed: Freezing a wave with as many minions as possible is better because the enemy laner loses minions much quicker than maintaining a slow freeze. This scenario always plays in toplane when you force the enemy to back with a bad trade, and do not have enough time to push the wave fully to the tower (always happens with champs like gnar, fiora).A scenario where u would want to thin the wave when freezing is if you're looking to trade with the enemy and want to reduce minion damage.

vishnuhu
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Additionally, the health of minions matter as well, I always saw my friends thin the wave way too much and can't freeze even with 4+ low health minions.

kelvinlo
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In defense of Skillcapped, the company does actually have videos that can help, especially the ones that help you to not autopilot / mental tips. For example, thanks to one of their videos, I ask myself the question: "Will I positively change the outcome of the game if I do this play?", and it does help me a lot to not autopilot during games and chase for random kills. Though your point at the end sums it up, as long as you don't follow their guides blindly, you are good to go.

FabioSxO
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Also if you have less minions than what is needed for a freeze and you can walk up to lane, pull those minions until the other enemy wave comes and is able to protect them, that way the enemy wave will still push to you, instead of pushing to enemy or just evening out in middle.

frombeyond
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I've just started watching your videos and the concept of not taking finite resources has opened so many possibilities to me! Still trying to get my teammates to understand it but it helped me come back from a 4 kill deficit too because I had more waves to farm in the sidelines :)

freedom_syllable
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Quick to the point and informative, great work on this video!

timmytigerz
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Love videos that get the info across concisely and don't pad it with unnecessary bs

MrMidgetMania
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Hey man thank you for all your content, I literally went from permastuck since season 9 to now being emerald, its crazy how far your content has taken me so far. Much love brother.

ericsaibotXD
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this was actually really informative, i never really listened to guide videos all that much and freezing just didnt make sense to me but this helped a lot

PESSSSTILENCE
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just landed here, i like how you "attack" proguides and skillcapped, insta respect

mlawebbervods
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Concise video with correct information, awesome to see! Nice work.

JT_League
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We need to get behind content creators like this, straight to the point, no bs, just exactly what we need :)

pandatalestv
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tysm for this short yet high quality video, seriously made freezing look much more useful and easier to do

filiplukic
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thank you bro i have been using 3 to 4 this whole time and wondered why it always seems to go so badly while many others can keep it frozen for longer but now i know, good video very well explained

diggingdwarf
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This is an underrated guide. Thanks, this tip really helped me out.

EkzamRA
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@EragonUK you simply are the best. You know the best methods to things and relevant information to pull off some of the most insane things that most players couldn't fathom, but you use your education to provide us with understanding in such a good manner. You truly deserve more following, and you've earned my subscription.

istrafed
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Skillcapped video's on that topic says legit "at least x minions"

Fragor
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thank you so much for the precious information! And thanks as well for not being afraid to speak up about straight-up misinformation from big, major channel that plague the educational LoL content sphere. it sucks. Hopefully we can get better content and maybe standardized resources in the future.

moontzu